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Well there was not a single mention of IDN in DNJ today.

There are sales going on, but they are not being reported.

If we are not careful, IDN will fall off the radar, and people will perceive it as one of those "fads", and before we know it, we will be back to pre-東京.net times

People have very short memories.
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Re: This weeks DNJournal

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Well there was not a single mention of IDN in DNJ today.

There are sales going on, but they are not being reported.

If we are not careful, IDN will fall off the radar, and people will perceive it as one of those "fads", and before we know it, we will be back to pre-東京.net times

People have very short memories.

Both plus and minus. For a buyer, it's mostly a plus:

1. It will lower the market price, or at least bring prices down to more sensible levels, and you can scoop up more varieties at lower price, and spread your eggs.

2. There are still good names out there you can take for $7.

3. There's no worry for luck of publicity in the near future - the launch of IE7 will create more publicity than DNJournal.
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- the launch of IE7 will create more publicity than DNJournal.
do you really believe that?

everything I've seen on M$ sites world wide so far has played down or simply not mentioned IDN.

when is the big fan-fare and fireworks display as we all expected.

i fear we may have to do a little PR ourselves.
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Microsoft would not talk about IDNs at the beginning because it is a security issue. They put it into only out of no choice - Firefox has it, and the Asian NICs are all pestering them to add support.

The publicity will come from Asian and European sources reporting on IE7 support for IDNs and prompting a local rush to secure their names.
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do you really believe that?

everything I've seen on M$ sites world wide so far has played down or simply not mentioned IDN.

when is the big fan-fare and fireworks display as we all expected.

i fear we may have to do a little PR ourselves.
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Re: This weeks DNJournal

It's mentioned at the end on every Japanese press release I've read..
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Re: This weeks DNJournal

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Well there was not a single mention of IDN in DNJ today.

There are sales going on, but they are not being reported.

If we are not careful, IDN will fall off the radar, and people will perceive it as one of those "fads", and before we know it, we will be back to pre-東京.net times

People have very short memories.
After IE7, IDNs will quickly become accepted world-wide, and big sales will happen, and get reported. Things aren't so shaky that we have to rely on one website, however good it is. DNJournal.com wasn't even born when business.com was sold for $7.5 million. Sales don't happen because of one website, they happen because of market demands.

Like touchring, I also don't like the idea of the hype getting ahead of reality. Just because a few domains are bought for a few thousand dollars, doesn't mean that all domains should be priced that way. The lack of sales for names asking X,XXX proves that.
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After IE7, IDNs will quickly become accepted world-wide, and big sales will happen, and get reported. Things aren't so shaky that we have to rely on one website, however good it is. DNJournal.com wasn't even born when business.com was sold for $7.5 million. Sales don't happen because of one website, they happen because of market demands.

Like touchring, I also don't like the idea of the hype getting ahead of reality. Just because a few domains are bought for a few thousand dollars, doesn't mean that all domains should be priced that way. The lack of sales for names asking X,XXX proves that.

Hype or not, the good thing about IDNs is that almost everyone who has gotten in early this year won't lose money in the long term with that few hundred or thousand names registered for $7, just a few diamonds within will square off the whole investment - this is the worst case scenario.

Others will make a fortune out of it.

But the same cannot be said of normal domains.
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But the same cannot be said of normal domains.
Or diamonds for that matter...
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Or diamonds for that matter...
Yes, how often do you see cut and polished stones just lying around waiting to be picked up!
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The lack of sales for names asking X,XXX proves that.
I don't see any lack of this one just needs to check the sales section on idntools.net.

99.9% of the sales are going on via email and pms. I'd say the majority of sales threads currently are just for showcasing.
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I don't see any lack of this one just needs to check the sales section on idntools.net.

99.9% of the sales are going on via email and pms. I'd say the majority of sales threads currently are just for showcasing.
No Publicity unfortunately means not at IDNtools either. This list is far from comprehensive almost certainly represents less than 50% of what is actually going on, and possibly a lot less than that!
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No Publicity unfortunately means not at IDNtools either. This list is far from comprehensive almost certainly represents less than 50% of what is actually going on, and possibly a lot less than that!
True, but this is the way of domaining. Most buyers want their buys to remain secret as to not inflate prices or give a hint as to what market they are trying to corner.

The publicity will come with the full release of IE7 and with major Japanese and Chinese sites going live with IDN urls. The ppc and advertising dollars come rolling in. Then and only then will the "sheep" be convinced.

I may see this a different way then most but I am not in it for the fame of everyone knowing I am a big seller. I'm not in it for the pride of having my name on the Dnjournal; although I've had many that qualify. I am quite content with no one knowing the extent of the stack that I am sitting on. I am in this for the money. These sales of mine are only to provide renewal fees and buy more IDN.

I personally would rather not see huge $20,000 dollar sales or higher right now. I already fear a bubble building up that is fast outpacing the potential earnings of some domains in the near future. This is not to say they will never pay off. They will. But how long would you as an investor wait to see an ROI?

Long story short, let the market correct itself. It always does and always will.
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No Publicity unfortunately means not at IDNtools either. This list is far from comprehensive almost certainly represents less than 50% of what is actually going on, and possibly a lot less than that!
People are free to PM me of course, I try to collect succesful sales but I can't look behind closed doors.
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