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Funny Article Agains IDNs by Russia's Top Webdeveloper

http://www.artlebedev.ru/kovodstvo/68/

Among other things the web designer of Yandex says:

Некоторое время назад у китайцев появилась возможность регистрировать доменные имена по-китайски. Недавно о похожей услуге объявила компания РБК. Она предлагает регистрировать домены по-русски в зоне .COM.

Some time ago the Chinese got the opportunity to start registering domain names in Chinese. Recently, RBK (RosbiznesConsulting) announced it was offering a similar service. They are offering registration of domain names in Russian in .COM.

Пожалуй, идея регистрировать домены не латинскими буквами — это самое идиотское, что появилось за последнее время в сети.

I think the idea of registering domain names in non-Latin characters is the dumbest thing that has showed up on the internet recently.

Но COM — это не крупная пресноводная бесчешуйчатая хищная рыба, а сокращение от английского commercial, и набирать это надо латинскими буквами.

.COM - isn't a large freshwater scale-less fish, it's an abbreviation of the English "commercial", and you must enter it in Latin letters.

А уж про универсальность вообще можно забыть. Нет русской клавиатуры под рукой — отдыхай, дорогой товарищ. Если кому-то этот аргумент кажется неубедительным — пусть наберет хоть один адрес по-китайски.

And you can forget about universality. If you don't have a Russian keyboard handy - forget about it comrade. And if you don't think this is a good argument, just try to enter just one domain name in Chinese!


Артемий Лебедев
§ 68. Доменные имена по-русски
8 апреля 2001

Artemij Lebedev
Domain Names in Russian
April 8, 2001

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Re: Funny Article Agains IDNs by Russia's Top Webdeveloper

IDN is for the wise, dumb people can hardly know what it's good for
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Re: Funny Article Agains IDNs by Russia's Top Webdeveloper

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IDN is for the wise, dumb people can hardly know what it's good for
That's why Лебедев's family name.com is registered by a Mr Wiles of IDN Limited of New Zealand.

These kinds of people are annoying. They are like those that advocate replacing Chinese characters with pinyin only in China.

This foolish statement needs to be saved for the record. I'm going to read it out loud one day to a laughing audience at the start of a conference session.

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Re: Funny Article Agains IDNs by Russia's Top Webdeveloper

But wasn't that in 2001?
Just last year I said the wrong things about IDNs...
Now look at me...
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Re: Funny Article Agains IDNs by Russia's Top Webdeveloper

When I talk with an IDN doubter/newbie, I attempt to put IDNs into context. The context is the internationalization of computers. Domain names are not the only technology being internationalized.

Look at Windows, look at many applications, look at websites. They are in the process of changing from "single language use" via 8-bit code pages (whether that language be English, Russian, Thai, whatever) to multi-language support via Unicode.

IDNing isn't a market we need to hype up to make it happen. We are simply riding on a wave of the internationalization (via Unicode) of technology.

And if you ever want to get any of the big ASCII type-in players on-board, just let them know that most of the world doesn't currently "do type-ins", but when IDNs are mainstream, they will i.e. express the issue in terms of "expansion of the type-in market", which is a business issue.
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