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Old 07-20-2006, 11:11 AM
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Is size a factor? コンテンツマネージメントシステム.com

What is the general feeling round here regarding the size of IDNs ?

A couple of weeks ago, I regged コンテンツマネージメントシステム.com

I believe that it means Content Management System ( CMS ). CMS is a program/system for people to update content on their websites, without the risk of doing anything wrong to the layout or coding of the site. More info can be found at ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Content_management_system

Do you think that some domains are just too long ?? With this one, I can see it would be a mouthful for someone to be typing in such a long domain.

However, Google.co.jp show results of 9.9 million ( with out the " " ), but there do appear to be a selection of adverts in the results. Overture also have several ads with the first four paying about Y100.

Are such terms worth registering, if there looks to be traffic and interest in such a long name ??


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Old 07-20-2006, 11:31 AM
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Re: Is size a factor? コンテンツマネージメントシステム.com

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What is the general feeling round here regarding the size of IDNs ?

A couple of weeks ago, I regged コンテンツマネージメントシステム.com

I believe that it means Content Management System ( CMS ). CMS is a program/system for people to update content on their websites, without the risk of doing anything wrong to the layout or coding of the site. More info can be found at ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Content_management_system

Do you think that some domains are just too long ?? With this one, I can see it would be a mouthful for someone to be typing in such a long domain.

However, Google.co.jp show results of 9.9 million ( with out the " " ), but there do appear to be a selection of adverts in the results. Overture also have several ads with the first four paying about Y100.

Are such terms worth registering, if there looks to be traffic and interest in such a long name ??


Thanks for your time.


Alex

My guess is that somewhere out there there will be a much shorter form. It might even be ASCII but a transliteration of the Acronym might be a good place to start.
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Re: Is size a factor? コンテンツマネージメントシステム.com

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...Do you think that some domains are just too long ?? ..Alex
IMO, yes it's long for an IDN, but short compared to some BS "premium" ascii's i've seen being sold as the next best thing for zillion dollars.

it's hard to say, i think the answer lies in not physical length, but in how many keystroke combinations it takes to get to type a name. I guess only a native would know that.

are each of those symbols typeable by a single keystroke? I dunno, i'm pretty clueless in this area..
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Re: Is size a factor? コンテンツマネージメントシステム.com

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IMO, yes it's long for an IDN, but short compared to some BS "premium" ascii's i've seen being sold as the next best thing for zillion dollars.

it's hard to say, i think the answer lies in not physical length, but in how many keystroke combinations it takes to get to type that name. I guess only a native would know that.

are each of those symbols typeable by a single keystroke? I dunno, i'm pretty clueless in this area..
Valid point. I think we can treat Japanese Kana as single Keystoke, but even so you are up at 16 characters which would kill most ASCII.
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Re: Is size a factor? コンテンツマネージメントシステム.com

thanks for the replies so far guys. Having no knowledge of the Japanese language at all, I had not even thought about the keystrokes aspect.

So AlphaMale, you think half a zillion dollars would be a fair amount to ask for the name ???


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Maybe a quarter, you wont get half now, but in a few years..... you never know...
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Re: Is size a factor? コンテンツマネージメントシステム.com

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..thanks for the replies so far guys. Having no knowledge of the Japanese language at all, I had not even thought about the keystrokes aspect..
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I got caught out on this one early one, assuming that every "single character" chinese name was typeable with a single keystroke (ascii habits die hard)

... and then one day i realised how big the keyboard would have to be. lol

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Re: Is size a factor? コンテンツマネージメントシステム.com

29 Key Strokes.
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Re: Is size a factor? コンテンツマネージメントシステム.com

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29 Key Strokes.
Alex, you might get sued for causing RSI with that website.
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Re: Is size a factor? コンテンツマネージメントシステム.com

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29 Key Strokes.
I guess we had better count 2 stokes per character for Kana then! That is understandable as each character effectively represents a constanant and a vowel.
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Re: Is size a factor? コンテンツマネージメントシステム.com

So, does anyone have a longer IDN, or am I the winner ??

If so, what prize do I get ??

A guide to finding a registrering "shorter" IDNs might be useful

As for getting sued for causing RSI, do you think it is worth me contacting Namedrive, and ask if they can stick a warning on my parked page saying "Typing in this domain can seriously damage your health" !!!


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Re: Is size a factor? コンテンツマネージメントシステム.com

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So, does anyone have a longer IDN, or am I the winner ??

If so, what prize do I get ??

A guide to finding a registrering "shorter" IDNs might be useful

As for getting sued for causing RSI, do you think it is worth me contacting Namedrive, and ask if they can stick a warning on my parked page saying "Typing in this domain can seriously damage your health" !!!


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This one will be getting close in terms of numbers of keystrokes, but I would hazard a guess that I am still alright.

xn--4oq20hg9mc5eqzav18h.com 搜索引擎优化 Search Engine Optimisation

If it comes to the very shortest names, I would suggest we probably have the best selection anywhere. We started on letters before we became confident enough to tackle whole words.
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Re: Is size a factor? コンテンツマネージメントシステム.com

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xn--4oq20hg9mc5eqzav18h.com 搜索引擎优化 Search Engine Optimisation

Duck, this one is excellent. Its not as long as mine ( I am refering to the domain name of course !! ), but is there no other way to put such a term in Japanese. In English, we have SEO, CMS, etc, but are there such initials for these domains in Japanese ??

I guess with some such specific terms, there might not be an alternative and shorter way to write them.


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