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Old 24th July 2006, 07:48 AM
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Total IDN count update: 550k (com + net), July 2006
Four months after owen of Domainsite quantified total number of com and net IDNs to be ~425k, I was able to recalculate it to have grown to 550k. Thats about 30% growth or an annualised 90% growth. We can surely attribute a significant part of it to our Olney's IDN Forum and the members here (thats without counting ccTLDs like jp and cn). Excluding the flat growth in the large Hangul(4%) and Latin(1%) script domains, the growth is an impressive 75%. Even though domains in most other languages have increased dramatically, there are 90k more domain names in Han script alone and only 35k more domain names all in other languages put together. Interest in Thai domains seem to have increased dramaticaly though from a smaller base.
I hope others might be able to spot additional trends from this data.


Code:
Unicode Script July      March     Growth
-------------- --------- --------- ------
Han            208063    114704     81%
Hangul         163270    157612     4%
Latin          113136    111660     1%
Katakana       26852     18198      48%
Cyrillic       11397     6490       76%
Arabic         7021      4327       62%
Hiragana       6505      4457       46%
Hebrew         3402      2105       62%
Greek          2652      1854       43%
Common symbols 
/and Other     2587      1823       42%
Thai           2147      669        221%
Devanagari     1966      1137       73%
Tamil          391       139        181%
Gurmukhi       193       46         320%
Gujarati       179       76         136%
Bengali        223       174        28%
Telugu         142       94         51%
Kannada        120       78         54%
Georgian       68        80        -15%
Ethiopic       68        77        -12%
Armenian       46        37         24%
Malayalam      34        12         183%
Oriya          6         12        -50%
Tibetan        6         50        -88%
Khmer          9         2          350%
Lao            8         2          300%
Myanmar        3         8         -63%
Runic          3         2          50%
Sinhala        2         0          0%
Canadian Aborg 3         16        -81%
Cherokee       1         3         -67%
Yi             1         1          0%
-------------- --------- --------- -------
Total          550504    425945     29.24%

p.s.
Instead of averaging the code points like owen did, I tried to identify the first non-latin unicode character in the domain to determine the script.  This might have caused the dips in some langauges (or is it drops?). I am not sure if I have to separately count the still registered testbet bq race code domains and if that has impacted the results.
Edit: Formatting.

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Re: Total IDN count update: 550k (com + net)

Amazing, RD's portfolio is like 1% of the total. I bet the lot of us here own like 15% of all IDNs.
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Re: Total IDN count update: 550k (com + net)

Thanks for the interesting data.

How are Japanese Kanji counted or which category do they fall under? How are mixed Kana and Kanji or mixed Latin and Kana/Kanji counted?

EDIT: Reading your notes, I see that you used the first non-latin character to determine the category.
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Re: Total IDN count update: 550k (com + net)

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How are Japanese Kanji counted or which category do they fall under?
From what I understand, Japanese Kanji characters are part of Unicode Han script along with Chinese Hanzi and Korean Hanja characters.
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From what I understand, Japanese Kanji characters are part of Unicode Han script along with Chinese Hanzi and Korean Hanja characters.
Correct. It is possible only to discern scripts, not languages using Unicode.
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Is there any effect about the many registrations done accidently in "Africcaans" by forgetting to tag the language code.
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Is there any effect about the many registrations done accidently in "Africcaans" by forgetting to tag the language code.
Language code is used only during the registration process. It is not retained and does not tag the domain in any way.
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Re: Total IDN count update: 550k (com + net)

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From what I understand, Japanese Kanji characters are part of Unicode Han script along with Chinese Hanzi and Korean Hanja characters.
Thanks for the clarification. I wonder how the percentages work out for each language.
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Language code is used only during the registration process. It is not retained and does not tag the domain in any way.
Where did you get that information? That is one that has been worrying quite a lot of people. I have always been relaxed about this because I felt it was one that Verisign and ICANN would have to sort out, but it would be nice to get some clarifiication.

OK, own up you lot. Who has been hitting Sikh or Gurmuki?
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Re: Total IDN count update: 550k (com + net)

Yeah I know that some of the original programmers for IDNs were or are on the site. Are you part of the developing team?
Also thank you for giving credit to the site for expanding the increase of IDNs. Hopefully soon I can do the same for the Japanese Internet Market.
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Re: Total IDN count update: 550k (com + net)

:o I seem to own 10% of the Hebrew domains.

Great info, sramuk. Thanks.
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Re: Total IDN count update: 550k (com + net)

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Yeah I know that some of the original programmers for IDNs were or are on the site. Are you part of the developing team?
If the question is to me whether I am associated with Domainsite, No, I am not. Owen is.
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Re: Total IDN count update: 550k (com + net)

No not for DomainSite
Some of the actual programmers for the actual IDN system were on here. That was my question.


[QUOTE=sramuk][QUOTE=Olney]
Yeah I know that some of the original programmers for IDNs were or are on the site. Are you part of the developing team?
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If the question is to me whether I am associated with Domainsite, No, I am not. Owen is.
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Re: Total IDN count update: 550k (com + net)

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No not for DomainSite
Some of the actual programmers for the actual IDN system were on here. That was my question.
Wow, we could get a lot of things clarified by them.
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Yeah I know that some of the original programmers for IDNs were or are on the site. Are you part of the developing team?
Also thank you for giving credit to the site for expanding the increase of IDNs. Hopefully soon I can do the same for the Japanese Internet Market.
Where was this credit given?
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In his first post... not on another site..
He just acknowledged that the members & forum increased the registrations of IDNs...

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Language code is used only during the registration process. It is not retained and does not tag the domain in any way.
I can confirm this.

The language tag is used during the nameprep stage of the registration process. Once
the "all clear" is given to the string, it's registered. The language tag is NOT stored at Verisign in the registration database.
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I can confirm this.

The language tag is used during the nameprep stage of the registration process. Once
the "all clear" is given to the string, it's registered. The language tag is NOT stored at Verisign in the registration database.

Phew! I can sleep tonite, knowing that my names are not Afrikaan. :p
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Phew! I can sleep tonite, knowing that my names are not Afrikaan. :p
One more stupid thing that many have worried themselves silly about now just evaporates in a cloud of smoke.

Common you lot, there must be another boggieman story out there somewhere to frighten the Newbies?
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