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IDNCowboy 26th July 2006 02:46 AM

Anyone reggin japanese idns with other characters such as "の" etc?
 
の - in the middle or the japanese hypthen etc

Edwin 26th July 2006 03:23 AM

Re: Anyone reggin japanese idns with other characters such as "の" etc?
 
The Japanese hyphen isn't a hyphen!

I see a lot of confusion about this, it's basically a way to transform certain letters into other letters, a bit like an accent in French.

So "ア" is a short "ah" and "アー" is a long "ah" and both have their rightful place in the language. It's true that there are SOME cases where either could arguably be used, because the word being transliterated from a foreign language sounds like it could go either way, but MOST of the time there is a single correct form.

For example, ホームページ means "homepage" but ホムペジ is just garbage (at best, a pretty horrible typo).

Olney 26th July 2006 03:32 AM

Re: Anyone reggin japanese idns with other characters such as "の" etc?
 
The symbol that looks like a hyphen is called "Nobasu"
If any of us that speak Japanese say generally not to use it, people will take that as a rule for all domains.
Even the の character. It's a legit character & a common character for many words(end, beginning, middle).

Get the word you want translated.. Unfortunately online dictionaries may not help on giving honorifics in Japanese. I'm bad at honorics too.

It's all case by case...

There incorrect use has come on the site occasionally but I believe most are not making mistakes...

sunsei21 26th July 2006 03:37 AM

Re: Anyone reggin japanese idns with other characters such as "の" etc?
 
i have a few i regged not paying attention not sure they are even correct

Rubber Duck 26th July 2006 10:16 AM

Re: Anyone reggin japanese idns with other characters such as "の" etc?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff
の - in the middle or the japanese hypthen etc

The の character seems to be optional and even preferred in the middle of some two word combos. Although, I think you might get some cranky results from Overture with this character. It just seems you have to go at it case by case and to look at it from several angles and try to use some judgement. Be very careful registering large series of domains based on a certain forumula, unless you are really quite sure.

Edwin 26th July 2006 01:47 PM

Re: Anyone reggin japanese idns with other characters such as "の" etc?
 
It's not optional - it's a link word that is used in certain contexts, like "of". There are some expressions that will make no sense at all without it, even though Overture strips it out. Japanese speakers automatically know when to use it or not, it's only if you're grappling in the dark armed only with Overture, a dictionary and Google that it seems confusing.

Please listen to the folks who speak the language!

alex 26th July 2006 01:49 PM

Re: Anyone reggin japanese idns with other characters such as "の" etc?
 
I am getting views and some clicks on a few の domains.

Rubber Duck 26th July 2006 02:01 PM

Re: Anyone reggin japanese idns with other characters such as "の" etc?
 
OK, this is a sample of what I have gathered. I am sure some of them are complete nonsense, but fire away. We might all learn something.

東京のバイト
東京の仕事
東京の住宅
東京の塾
東京の求人
東京の派遣
東京の結婚
東京の融資
東京の転職
家での仕事
愛知の不動産

alpha 26th July 2006 02:06 PM

Re: Anyone reggin japanese idns with other characters such as "の" etc?
 
what about this one? 男の子 I can't see any reference to it being used without the lop-sided 6

Edwin 26th July 2006 02:53 PM

Re: Anyone reggin japanese idns with other characters such as "の" etc?
 
"男の子" means "boy". That's THE way of writing boy so there's no "other" version of it.

As I've already tried to explain, the "の" is often not an optional thing at all, but an integral part of a word or compound word.

sunsei21 26th July 2006 03:08 PM

Re: Anyone reggin japanese idns with other characters such as "の" etc?
 
here are a few of the ones i regged when i was cutting and pasting terms together
didnt really notice the symbol until later on was keeping them in the dont renew this crap folder :p
藤沢のアパート.com
福井のアパート.com
福岡のアパート.com

jose 26th July 2006 06:36 PM

Re: Anyone reggin japanese idns with other characters such as "の" etc?
 
Here's a nice FREE .com with の:

xn--u9j009k9o0ay6hxnbji.com, 鋼の錬金術師, 2.690.000 Google with nice Google Trends and 160.329 !!! OVT JP

Babel gives me "Alchemy teacher of steel" lol. TM alert!.

Edwin 26th July 2006 11:28 PM

Re: Anyone reggin japanese idns with other characters such as "の" etc?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jose
Here's a nice FREE .com with の:

xn--u9j009k9o0ay6hxnbji.com, 鋼の錬金術師, 2.690.000 Google with nice Google Trends and 160.329 !!! OVT JP

Babel gives me "Alchemy teacher of steel" lol. TM alert!.

That's "Full Metal Alchemist", a popular anime which would consequently be a massive TM violation. Hope nobody here is stupid enough to register it!

sarcle 27th July 2006 12:03 AM

Re: Anyone reggin japanese idns with other characters such as "の" etc?
 
レポートの書き方 (How to Write a Report)

Google Trends for レポートの書き方
http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/7862/reportlf5.png

There are no google trends without the の . It's needed in some cases.

So make sure you do a Serp before you register. My thoughts anyways.

jose 27th July 2006 12:11 AM

Re: Anyone reggin japanese idns with other characters such as "の" etc?
 
How about just register it, profit from some nice parking and, the moment they ask for it, hand it out right away without any further questions.

thegenius1 27th July 2006 12:15 AM

Re: Anyone reggin japanese idns with other characters such as "の" etc?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jose
How about just register it, profit from some nice parking and, the moment they ask for it, hand it out right away without any further questions.


Com on jose you cant really be asking this , as much as everybody here frowns upon Blatent TM reg's

jose 27th July 2006 01:09 AM

Re: Anyone reggin japanese idns with other characters such as "の" etc?
 
ops... right. sorry. just too tempting.

it's still free thought, LOL

Rubber Duck 27th July 2006 01:17 AM

Re: Anyone reggin japanese idns with other characters such as "の" etc?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thegenius1
Com on jose you cant really be asking this , as much as everybody here frowns upon Blatent TM reg's

I got a decease and desist letter tonight on an ASCII than is up for $75 dollars as Sedo. Well I told them to either pay up or shut up. The domains is up for renewal shortly and if they don't pay the $75 dollar, I will drop it anyway. Take that attitude with me they can f*ck off. Let them see how much they end up paying at Snapnames. Christ they don't even get to have coffee with their attorney for 75 bucks!

Edwin 27th July 2006 01:42 AM

Re: Anyone reggin japanese idns with other characters such as "の" etc?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rubber Duck
I got a decease and desist letter

That's a vicious letter if they want you to drop dead! :)

Drewbert 27th July 2006 01:53 AM

Re: Anyone reggin japanese idns with other characters such as "の" etc?
 
Heh heh. Well spotted, Bruce.


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