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Old 26th July 2006, 03:14 AM
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According to his website http://eRealEstate.com this is Mr. Schwartz Top 50 websites in development

http://www.erealestate.com/virtual/domains.htm#

wholesalejewelry.com
wholesalefurniture.com
efurniture.com
tradeshows.com
birthdayparty.com
freevacation.com
ecruise.com
etrip.com
ereservations.com
evacation.com
gocruising.com
gostandby.com
freememberships.com
emovie.com
virtualdiet.com
personalads.com
lonelypeople.com
cubiczirconia.com
wholesalejewelers.com
epolice.com
queen.com
saywhen.com
ejoke.com
fishingtackle.com
visitorsbureau.com
realistic.com
auctionsonline.com
stockinsider.com
men.com
voyeur.com
cheating.com
properties.com
unemployed.com
candy.com
goingplaces.com
bulkmail.com
realestateforsale.com
sexo.com
buywholesale.com
buycloseouts.com
discountprice.com
discountreservations.com
bargainmania.com
ebet.com
ebingo.com
jackpotbingo.com
indiancasino.com
dailydouble.com
handicapper.com
tipsheet.com
tipline.com
salestips.com
lawtips.com
styletips.com
watching.com
onlinereview.com
onlineawards.com
modelhome.com

In all fairness the site does say "Keep in mind most words here were written in 1996-1999!"

And we know he has aquired alot of new names recently like property.com & properties.com ect.
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Re: Can you Beat out Rick Swartz Top 50 ?

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According to his website http://eRealEstate.com this is Mr. Swartz Top 50 websites in development

http://www.erealestate.com/virtual/domains.htm#

wholesalejewelry.com
wholesalefurniture.com
efurniture.com
tradeshows.com
birthdayparty.com
freevacation.com
ecruise.com
etrip.com
ereservations.com
evacation.com
gocruising.com
gostandby.com
freememberships.com
emovie.com
virtualdiet.com
personalads.com
lonelypeople.com
cubiczirconia.com
wholesalejewelers.com
epolice.com
queen.com
saywhen.com
ejoke.com
fishingtackle.com
visitorsbureau.com
realistic.com
auctionsonline.com
stockinsider.com
men.com
voyeur.com
cheating.com
properties.com
unemployed.com
candy.com
goingplaces.com
bulkmail.com
realestateforsale.com
sexo.com
buywholesale.com
buycloseouts.com
discountprice.com
discountreservations.com
bargainmania.com
ebet.com
ebingo.com
jackpotbingo.com
indiancasino.com
dailydouble.com
handicapper.com
tipsheet.com
tipline.com
salestips.com
lawtips.com
styletips.com
watching.com
onlinereview.com
onlineawards.com
modelhome.com

In all fairness the site does say "Keep in mind most words here were written in 1996-1999!"

And we know he has aquired alot of new names recently like property.com & properties.com ect.
Well this guy is lucky

http://www.erealestate.com/virtual/history.htm

He must have had rich parents cause he was already making alot of $ in the very beginning.
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Old 26th July 2006, 03:50 AM
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Re: Can you Beat out Rick Swartz Top 50 ?

I'm sure his current portfolio beats the pants out of any of those listed here but...

I'll try list some relative terms I own in Japanese

his wholesalejewelry.com - my Diamond, platinum, gold

his freevacation.com ecruise.com etrip.com
MY - CheapVacation(Travel), CheapTickets, CheapHotel, OverSeasHotel

His - ereservations.com
My - OnlineReservations

His - emovie.com
My - MovieDownloads

His - virtualdiet.com
My - Calories, or Sweat

His - ejoke.com
My - Bloopers(Happening)

His - stockinsider.com
My - StockExchange, DayTrader

His - unemployed.com
My - Moonlighting, TempingAgency(keep forgetting the best way to say in English), CareerInfo

His - discountprice.com
My - Sale.com

His - indiancasino.com, ebet.com, ebingo.com ,jackpotbingo.com,indiancasino.com, dailydouble.com
My - Roulette, PokerAffiliates, CasinoAffiliates



These are all com & jp
And I think we can try to learn from his regs before 2000 & I hope I had the same strategy he was thinking back then.
Also he's rich & I'm not yet so his currently portfolio we might not be able to touch...
But I'll play matchup with the old portfolio...
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I'm sure his current portfolio beats the pants out of any of those listed here but...

I'll try list some relative terms I own in Japanese

his wholesalejewelry.com - my Diamond, platinum, gold

his freevacation.com ecruise.com etrip.com
MY - CheapVacation(Travel), CheapTickets, CheapHotel, OverSeasHotel

His - ereservations.com
My - OnlineReservations

His - emovie.com
My - MovieDownloads

His - virtualdiet.com
My - Calories, or Sweat

His - ejoke.com
My - Bloopers(Happening)

His - stockinsider.com
My - StockExchange, DayTrader

His - unemployed.com
My - Moonlighting, TempingAgency(keep forgetting the best way to say in English), CareerInfo

His - discountprice.com
My - Sale.com

His - indiancasino.com, ebet.com, ebingo.com ,jackpotbingo.com,indiancasino.com, dailydouble.com
My - Roulette, PokerAffiliates, CasinoAffiliates



These are all com & jp
And I think we can try to learn from his regs before 2000 & I hope I had the same strategy he was thinking back then.
Also he's rich & I'm not yet so his currently portfolio we might be able to touch...
But I'll play matchup with the old portfolio...
I'd keep using the strategy you're using as your regs so far are better than his :P
No doubt they will make more $

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It's Schwartz, not Swartz.

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His story is very impressive.
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Re: Can you Beat out Rick Swartz Top 50 ?

I've narrowed down the search

Rick Schwartz is a poster on the board. He has thousands of IDNs. His alises are "Rubber Duck" and "Drewbert"

I think he is posting from two different IPs.

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I've narrowed down the search

Rick Schwartz is a poster on the board. He has thousands of IDNs. His alises are "Rubber Duck" and "Drewbert"

I think he is posting from two different IPs.

;-)

...j/k

Ah you maybe on to something ..... Sorry Drew Schwartz copy and paste errr Welcome to our board ! It all makes sense now
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Re: Can you Beat out Rick Swartz Top 50 ?

Erealestate.com displays 7 domains on it's homepage,
other then 2 with "good" ovt

candy.com (candy 189k)
tradeshows.com (trade show 23k)

The other 5 domains got 734 ovt or less

Food for tought?
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Erealestate.com displays 7 domains on it's homepage,
other then 2 with "good" ovt

candy.com (candy 189k)
tradeshows.com (trade show 23k)

The other 5 domains got 734 ovt or less

Food for tought?

I started to post this withought the RAW #s but was still pondering if i should , This is Serious Food For Thought !
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Ah you maybe on to something ..... Sorry Drew Schwartz copy and paste errr Welcome to our board ! It all makes sense now
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Re: Can you Beat out Rick Swartz Top 50 ?

Those stats on Ricks domains tell you one thing.

When you get in the game at the point where you get pure generics. OVT isn't the major factor. Do you see Rick mention OVT for his domains at that point? Is he filthy rich now?

When all the generics get exhausted then PPC, search, & other factors will determine what will sell or not.
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Re: Can you Beat out Rick Swartz Top 50 ?

In this stage we should, IMHO, use OVT to point the best generics.

For instance, I have a list of 100.000 domains, all generics. Which ones should I pick? (I do have the list
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Those stats on Ricks domains tell you one thing.

When you get in the game at the point where you get pure generics. OVT isn't the major factor. Do you see Rick mention OVT for his domains at that point? Is he filthy rich now?

When all the generics get exhausted then PPC, search, & other factors will determine what will sell or not.

When you earn $10-20k a month from a name early in the game, you do not bother about OVT. We're all playing with OVT because we aren't earning that $$$$ a month from names, so we can't use $ to compare.

Btw, Rick made it clear he was earning 5 figure money from some of his names when the internet community is 10% of the number of firefox users today. How true is that and what is the reason?

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I'm not saying we shouldn't use it.. I'm just saying for many of the domains we are able to get, we should be looking at the industry first, & what kinds of figures that industry makes.

I'd personally like to have
Cars, diamonds, pearls, watches, yatchs, personal loans,
before perhaps
cool, sweet, etc.. which may have a way higher OVT rate.



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For instance, I have a list of 100.000 domains, all generics. Which ones should I pick? (I do have the list
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I'm not saying we shouldn't use it.. I'm just saying for many of the domains we are able to get, we should be looking at the industry first, & what kinds of figures that industry makes.

I'd personally like to have
Cars, diamonds, pearls, watches, yatchs, personal loans,
before perhaps
cool, sweet, etc.. which may have a way higher OVT rate.
I think you are dead on with this maybe we should start a poll about this, but im with you on this topic. If you take your examples Sweet Vs Personal Loan ... Sweet could get over 100k ovt. and your loan term may get a couple thousand but at the end of the day would you rather collect 2-5+ Cents a click or 2-5+ Dollars ? Im riding with the Bids
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Re: Can you Beat out Rick Swartz Top 50 ?

I never heard of Overture before year 2000, people were still researching ways to advertise on the net. Ye Yun was the master in exploiting domain traffic, news about his success led to the explosion of domain registration from 25M .com in December 2002 --> 50M today.
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Rick Schartz has done very well for himself and the ASCII situation was always tough. Realistically though Giant's portfolio will make him look like a sick parrot.
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What's missing from the list are some of his top adult names, which are probably making him $10,000+ a day (or at least were back in the good old days of the adult industry).

More generally, names that can bring in thousands of dollars a day from their typein traffic are going to be worth much more than industry-defining domains that come with zero traffic. After all, the former are a "business" in and of themselves, in the sense that owning a $1,000 a day name generates a $365,000 a year income - a very healthy figure - whereas owning an ultra-hot generic with no traffic is a POTENTIAL goldmine - and potential alone doesn't get the big bucks, usually.
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What's missing from the list are some of his top adult names, which are probably making him $10,000+ a day (or at least were back in the good old days of the adult industry).

More generally, names that can bring in thousands of dollars a day from their typein traffic are going to be worth much more than industry-defining domains that come with zero traffic. After all, the former are a "business" in and of themselves, in the sense that owning a $1,000 a day name generates a $365,000 a year income - a very healthy figure - whereas owning an ultra-hot generic with no traffic is a POTENTIAL goldmine - and potential alone doesn't get the big bucks, usually.

One name makes $10,000 a day?

Can't imagine any name that makes $10,000 a day, other than sex.com or poker.com.

I doubt that even all the close to a million IDNs combined can make $10,000 a day.

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