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IDNCowboy 28th July 2006 08:48 PM

Overture China
 
Shouldn't we each send an email to Overture to get their Chinese version working once and for all ;-).

thefabfive 28th July 2006 08:54 PM

Re: Overture China
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff
Shouldn't we each send an email to Overture to get their Chinese version working once and for all ;-).

I would assume some of the reason for CN Ovt no working lies with the Chinese government.

IDNCowboy 28th July 2006 08:57 PM

Re: Overture China
 
True thats what I thought in the past but I hope something gets worked out.

Giant 28th July 2006 11:37 PM

Re: Overture China
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thefabfive
I would assume some of the reason for CN Ovt no working lies with the Chinese government.

No, it has nothing to do with the Chinese government. I don't think the Chinese government is so bad :)

Yahoo sold Yahoo China to Alibaba.com and got 40% of the shares. Jack Ma (CEO of Alibaba) is the guy really running anything Yahoo in China, and he is to blame.

Rubber Duck 28th July 2006 11:47 PM

Re: Overture China
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Giant
No, it has nothing to do with the Chinese government. I don't think the Chinese government is so bad :)

Yahoo sold Yahoo China to Alibaba.com and got 40% of the shares. Jack Ma (CEO of Alibaba) is the guy really running anything Yahoo in China, and he is to blame.

Yahoo can only report search results if they actually get any.

thefabfive 28th July 2006 11:56 PM

Re: Overture China
 
Quote:

No, it has nothing to do with the Chinese government. I don't think the Chinese government is so bad

Yahoo sold Yahoo China to Alibaba.com and got 40% of the shares. Jack Ma (CEO of Alibaba) is the guy really running anything Yahoo in China, and he is to blame.
No offense intended to the Chinese government. :)

It would be nice if Baidu came out with an Ovt or Yandex like tool.

Giant 29th July 2006 12:09 AM

Re: Overture China
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rubber Duck
Yahoo can only report search results if they actually get any.

There's always risks to partner with a mainland Chinese if you are not from China yourself. Yahoo thought to get 40% first and wait till Jack Ma develope the business further and then get another 1x% shares to control the company. But Jack Ma is very smart but in a foolish way, he tries to promote his own products and freeze anything Yahoo before Jerry Yang can control Alibaba.

Consequence: they both lose.

kenne 29th July 2006 12:24 AM

Re: Overture China
 
I read a study who broke up the Chinese search engine market like this:
Baidu: 40%+
Google: ~15%
Yahoo: 40%

I was a bit surprised by Yahoo's market share and google's lack of. I'm
not totally trusting that study because it was just one study.

On top of that, the news article that quoted the study didn't specify
whether the % is based on search volume or revenue

Quote:

Originally Posted by Giant
There's always risks to partner with a mainland Chinese if you are not from China yourself. Yahoo thought to get 40% first and wait till Jack Ma develope the business further and then get another 1x% shares to control the company. But Jack Ma is very smart but in a foolish way, he tries to promote his own products and freeze anything Yahoo before Jerry Yang can control Alibaba.

Consequence: they both lose.

I'm curious how it was, could you cite a place that has the whole story? thanks!

Giant 29th July 2006 01:21 AM

Re: Overture China
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kenne
I read a study who broke up the Chinese search engine market like this:
Baidu: 40%+
Google: ~15%
Yahoo: 40%

I was a bit surprised by Yahoo's market share and google's lack of. I'm
not totally trusting that study because it was just one study.

On top of that, the news article that quoted the study didn't specify
whether the % is based on search volume or revenue



I'm curious how it was, could you cite a place that has the whole story? thanks!

There's no place to tell you the whole story, the whole story is collected from bit by bit. 3721 is almost dead, Yahoo China's traffic down 60 - 70%.... They tried to change the course and start promoting Yahoo China again in the last few weeks...

The more accurate %:

Baidu: 43.9%
Google:13.2%
Yahoo: 21.1%


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