Best performing IDNs?

[Rockafeller]

Hello everyone. Just wondering which IDNs are preforming the best for you..in terms of traffic and click rate.

In order from best to worst for me are: Thai, Greek, Russian, Chinese, Japanese, Others.

[Alphamale]

Do you mind if I add an Arabic choice as well? It can't just be me thats has way better revenue on Arabic than anything else.

[Rubber Duck]

Originally Posted by Alphamale

Do you mind if I add an Arabic choice as well? It can't just be me thats has way better revenue on Arabic than anything else.

No take a vote out of other for me too.

[Alphamale]

I took the liberty of adding Arabic before people start voting.

I moved your vote RD to arabic

[Rockafeller]

Originally Posted by Alphamale

I took the liberty of adding Arabic before people start voting.

I moved your vote RD to arabic

Thanks.

[Rubber Duck]

Originally Posted by dnGenius

Hello everyone. Just wondering which IDNs are preforming the best for you..in terms of traffic and click rate.

In order from best to worst for me are: Thai, Greek, Russian, Chinese, Japanese, Others.

Well having a similarly broad portfolio, one has to draw certain conclusions here.

A) You missed the boat on Arabic.

B) You either have exceptionally good Thai, or the rest are nothing to shout about. Thai is certainly not the top language overall.

[Rockafeller]

Originally Posted by Rubber Duck

Well having a similarly broad portfolio, one has to draw certain conclusions here.

A) You missed the boat on Arabic.

B) You either have exceptionally good Thai, or the rest are nothing to shout about. Thai is certainly not the top language overall.

Why is it that you always put people down to make yourself look better? You have no idea what I have. And please don't try to sound smart in your posts...your 47 years old so I know your a bit senile.

Also, I didn't say that EVERYONE's top preforming IDNs were Thai...I said that mine were.

If I want your opinion on my portfolio, I'll ask. Thanks.

[OldIDNer]

My best performing are portuguese and russian IDNs.

[idn]

Originally Posted by dnGenius

Why is it that you always put people down to make yourself look better? You have no idea what I have. And please don't try to sound smart in your posts...your 47 years old so I know your a bit senile.

Also, I didn't say that EVERYONE's top preforming IDNs were Thai...I said that mine were.

If I want your opinion on my portfolio, I'll ask. Thanks.

Come on, his name is Rubber Duck, I would say he is 47 years YOUNG

[Rubber Duck]

I think those that have voted Japanese have misread the question.

As for Godfrey, well it was clearly an either or. If he chooses the alternative that could be intrepeted as a put down, and then insists on the interpretation, then what can I do but apologise.

[rhys]

No misread of the question. ASCII wasn't an option and there is no question that Japanese is better than the few other languages I have in portfolio. Does anyone know how to get better than 2 cents a click for thai?

[thegenius1]

No Mis Read here !

[Rubber Duck]

Originally Posted by rhys

No misread of the question. ASCII wasn't an option and there is no question that Japanese is better than the few other languages I have in portfolio. Does anyone know how to get better than 2 cents a click for thai?

Well that is the problem. By and large the only decent PPC are for Japanese. The rest are under 10 cents and generally 2-3 cents. This was not, however, the question which was asked. I have to say though on the two criteria which have been requested, total number of clicks and click through rate, Japan is way behind.
In terms of getting a return on investment, however, it probably looks the most promising.

[touchring]

I voted equally for the following:

Chinese
Pros: Extremely high traffic, currently low PPC set to rise in the long term, moderate growth in internet users.
Cons: Millions of CNNIC plugins installed, low PPC, low buying power in end user market, unknown acceptability from end users, possible block from firewall, long term threat from cTLD.

Japanese
Pros: End user market with good buying power, high PPC, no plugins, IDNs accepted by end users.
Cons: Low type-in, low SERP, low traffic, long term threat from cTLD, low CTR.

German
Pros: Established end user market for .de, .com usage set to rise as well, moderate PPC, 100% acceptability from end users, end user market with good buying power.
Cons: Only moderate traffic for .coms, .coms less preferred than .de, expect lower growth in internet user base as compared with the rest, high Firefox user base.

Arabic
Pros: Strong .com due to many countries, moderate traffic, high growth in internet users, ,moderate type-in, unusually high CTR.
Cons: IDNs acceptability unknown, possible block from firewall, moderate threat from cTLD, low PPC.

Others: Hebrew, French, Spanish, etc.
Pros: Moderate PPC, 100% acceptability from end users for latins, moderate growth in French Africa, Latin American traffic, high traffic, end user market with good buying power, high CTR.
Cons: Competition from ASCII, moderate threat from cTLD.

[Rubber Duck]

Originally Posted by touchring

I voted for the following, reasons as follows:

Chinese
Pros: Extremely high traffic, currently low PPC set to rise in the long term, moderate growth in internet users.
Cons: Millions of CNNIC plugins installed, low PPC, low buying power in end user market, IDNs acceptability unknown over pinyin, possible block from firewall, long term threat from cTLD.

Japanese
Pros: End user market with good buying power, high PPC, no plugins, IDNs accepted by end users.
Cons: Low type-in, low SERP, low traffic, long term threat from cTLD.

German
Pros: Established end user market for .de, .com usage set to rise as well, moderate PPC, 100% acceptability from end users, end user market with good buying power.
Cons: Only moderate traffic for .coms, .coms less preferred than .de.

Arabic
Pros: Strong .com due to many countries, moderate traffic, high growth in internet users.
Cons: IDNs acceptability unknown, possible block from firewall, long term threat from cTLD.

Others: Hebrew, French, Spanish, etc.
Pros: Moderate PPC, 100% acceptability from end users for latins, moderate growth in French Africa, Latin American traffic, high traffic, end user market with good buying power.
Cons: Competition from ASCII.

Yes, but I my earlier point was that question asked about Views and CTRs, but not PPC. This rather suggest that there is confusion over what people are actually voting about.

[touchring]

Originally Posted by Rubber Duck

Yes, but I my earlier point was that question asked about Views and CTRs, but not PPC. This rather suggest that there is confusion over what people are actually voting about.

Yes, comments on CTR added. Any contrarion views, feel free to express.

I think PPC is quite crucial. Having only 2 or 3 cents PPC isn't fun.

[Rubber Duck]

Originally Posted by touchring

Yes, comments on CTR added. Any contrarion views, feel free to express.

I think PPC is quite crucial. Having only 2 or 3 cents PPC isn't fun.

I quite agree.

[touchring]

Originally Posted by Rubber Duck

I quite agree.

Yes, especially crucial if one intends to move beyond "natural traffic", there is better return on investment if every bit of traffic gained from development yields 20-50 cents instead of 2 or 3 cents.

[Rubber Duck]

Originally Posted by touchring

Yes, especially crucial if one intends to move beyond "natural traffic", there is better return on investment if every bit of traffic gained from development yields 20-50 cents instead of 2 or 3 cents.

The rates at the moment reflect Adwords versus Search supply and demand in the Google internal market. Longer-term the demand for clicks will rise across the board, so we will be offered more valuable Adverts. OK, there may be high disposable income in Japan, but the margins on the supply of a TV there are no higher than in the Arabic Countries or even in Russia, in fact the reverse is possibly true. It does indicate a lot of competition at the online retailing level, but that is going to be a global phenomenon, not just a Japanese one.

[domainguru]

In Thailand, I think the reasons for the low PPC values are very clear. Google only entered the market a few months ago. It will take a good while for Thais to catch on and start outbidding each other. Until that happens, nearly all clicks will be for the minimum amount that Google allows.