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Re: i can not believe it!!!

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Well a lot of the culprits are from here. Those that are trying to talk the market down may well be amongst the worst offenders. The BS factor is growing daily.



Agree with most of that. I wasn't trying to knock the forum or even particularly get at any particular group. I was just trying to explain that the dynamics of the market at the moment are all screwed as the people who should be buying to selll elsewhere are coming here to try to sell to others whose primary interest at this moment in time is selling. I have no doubt that in a month or so both lots will be starting to buy.
Let me throw in some comments.

I used to be an active buyer on idnf, and now i actively but on SN.

I'm not in it for the rush, i know when to say no. I have no pride hurt by "losing" an auction.

I go for the quality, sometimes I may get it wrong,

Why not buy from here?

Because first we had a rush on everyone selling everything at 10k. That pissed me off.

Then I just got pissed off with the scammers and the complete load of crap that was turning up daily from the flippers.
I can't be arsed to rummage through the pile of coal anymore, to find the odd sensibly priced gem that someone may be off loading.

I find it easier to download the SN list, push it through a bulk converter and bulk overture - and pick.

and it has to be said, everynow and then, something really big does drop. These big drops happen routinely, and were constantly being mopped up by the big gun catchers out there.

All SN have done is level the playing field.
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Old 8th August 2006, 07:57 PM
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Re: i can not believe it!!!

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I think you guys are ignoring that nude.com sold for $3000 (and almost $4500) the other day. There is some money on this forum guys, it just isn't dumb money.

I personally feel you got Robbed JMO !
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I think you guys are ignoring that nude.com sold for $3000 (and almost $4500) the other day. There is some money on this forum guys, it just isn't dumb money.
To be honest with you rhys, $3000 won't buy too many nude all-nighter deals in Tokyo. That's chump change in that business.

So, the fact that nude.com in Japanese went for $3000 is the exact same reflection of the market as that of other names going for $50 or less.

Frankly, the fact that nude.com sold for $3000 shows a real lack of understanding of this domain on the part of the bidders involved.
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Re: i can not believe it!!!

Sure there are nice auctions here but you get more for your $ on snapnames ;-)

Nude.com was an exception :P
I had to grasp it. Look how much American porno sites make a month

certainly a few K even for nude-models-ny-usa.com etc (example not a real site)


so how much would a top level adult keyword make a month? :P

you do the math hehe
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Re: i can not believe it!!!

The market "in-here" to RD's point is not going to reflect the market "out-there" because the market "out-there" does not exist yet. When it does, then we won't have so much time to be bitching about "reception desk.com" selling for $10.

Nude.com sale is well in line with the current market reality. Is it a HUGE long-term bargain? You bet your ass it is. But is $3000 the market today? It sure is.
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Re: i can not believe it!!!

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I used to be an active buyer on idnf, and now i actively but on SN.
You can buy wherever you want. It just goes to show that despite being a moderator, you don't really support this forum if you put your hard earned cash into Snapnames corporate pockets instead of those of the people on this forum who helped you out with IDNs in the first place. Out of principle too as you put it. Right? LOL
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Re: i can not believe it!!!

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Nude.com sale is well in line with the current market reality. Is it a HUGE long-term bargain? You bet your ass it is. But is $3000 the market today? It sure is.
I dont know when you comapare to older sales , and even some recent sale even though they may have not been over 3k when you do a comparison i think it was highway robbery again JMO

I can forsee this domain going for 6 or 7 figs in the near future, kinda hurts when you dont just have 3,001 extra bucks to snap it up


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Re: i can not believe it!!!

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You can buy wherever you want. It just goes to show that despite being a moderator, you don't really support this forum if you put your hard earned cash into Snapnames corporate pockets instead of those of the people on this forum who helped you out with IDNs in the first place. Out of principle too as you put it. Right? LOL
Wrong. We are all here to make money. Period. Anyway possible. Whether that is buying idns off of fellow members or snapping expired idns from snap.
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Posted in wrong thread, Moved.
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Re: i can not believe it!!!

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The market "in-here" to RD's point is not going to reflect the market "out-there" because the market "out-there" does not exist yet. When it does, then we won't have so much time to be bitching about "reception desk.com" selling for $10.

Nude.com sale is well in line with the current market reality. Is it a HUGE long-term bargain? You bet your ass it is. But is $3000 the market today? It sure is.

I hope the market "out-there" really materializes, we all invested quite a lot of time if not money, still waiting....

I'll come back to this post a year from now and see where we stand, bookmarking. :O
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Re: i can not believe it!!!

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Wrong. We are all here to make money. Period. Anyway possible. Whether that is buying idns off of fellow members or snapping expired idns from snap.
People sometimes make choices that are not rational economic choices but emotional ones. Like Alpha's decision not to buy on this forum.
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Re: i can not believe it!!!

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You can buy wherever you want. It just goes to show that despite being a moderator, you don't really support this forum if you put your hard earned cash into Snapnames corporate pockets instead of those of the people on this forum who helped you out with IDNs in the first place. Out of principle too as you put it. Right? LOL
Are you being serious.

So I should only spend my cash here because I volunteer what little time I have to mod here?


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Are you being serious.
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Re: i can not believe it!!!

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People sometimes make choices that are not rational economic choices but emotional ones. Like Alpha's decision not to buy on this forum.

Alpha has more than done his part on this forum and the IDN market than the average forumer. OTOH, you got people that only take money from the community, and not return, or return very little. He alone cannot support the market - others must do more other than pitch.

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Re: i can not believe it!!!

Heres an example of an auction I won 3 minutes ago.

Lang: Japanese
Genre: Adult
US ovt: 525
JP ovt: 380,000

I paid $531. I was up against 4 others.


Did I get value for money?

I don't know, thats not the point. The point is that this name or anything like it not for sale on this forum today.

If it was for sale on this forum, I would have bid.

Like I said earlier - this is not about emotion - it's just business.


and Blast... water of a ducks back mate... say what you like, think what you like, I am not here to impress you. It's just business.

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People sometimes make choices that are not rational economic choices but emotional ones. Like Alpha's decision not to buy on this forum.
That's really bizarre criticising somone for "not buying on this forum". It's Alpha's money, you aren't his mum, let him spend it where he wants to.
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Re: i can not believe it!!!

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the jp idn was sold just now at $10.
why?
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Re: i can not believe it!!!

It is acceptable to discuss why certain type of domainers behave in certain ways. It is not acceptable to discuss why individuals trade in a particular manner. If Alpha wants to spend his money at SN, that is his decision. It may or may not be rational, but it is not a proper subject for debate.
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Re: i can not believe it!!!

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I hope the market "out-there" really materializes, we all invested quite a lot of time if not money, still waiting....

I'll come back to this post a year from now and see where we stand, bookmarking. :O
I don't have a doubt it will. Remember, if anyone wants to cash out their portfolio now, I'll give them 30% on top of your costs - just let me cherry pick the good ones. What's the stock market done for you this year?

In Japanese IDNs I view this as very much a 2-3 year game.
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Re: i can not believe it!!!

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I don't have a doubt it will. Remember, if anyone wants to cash out their portfolio now, I'll give them 30% on top of your costs - just let me cherry pick the good ones. What's the stock market done for you this year?

In Japanese IDNs I view this as very much a 2-3 year game.
It all depends whether you ride all the way to the terminus or not.

I have made 140,000% profit for certain IDNs in about 6 months. To most investors that would be considered job done. Obviously, I would have made more if I had stuck, but it is possible that I stand to make more where the money has been reinvested. Most people will by necessity have a mixed strategy that develops with the scenarios.

What I do know is long before 2 years IDN will be fetching a lot more than they are now, but of course in 5 years time they will be worth more still. It is all down to cashflow how many you hold and how many you fold.

The only ones that are going to miss out big time is those that have not obtained at least a handful of high quality domains. I guess that represents much more than half the forum at this time. Whether they are sitting on their hards or just scratching their arses, only time will tell.
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