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Old 25th November 2012, 03:30 PM
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They picked an intersting name, looking for big trouble.
I think the more appropriate word for their choice of name is 'dumbass'

Expect the site to disappear very quickly. Nobody that dumbassish should be running a financial site.
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Old 25th November 2012, 07:33 PM
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Re: paypal is the biggest obstacle faces arabic idners

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I think the more appropriate word for their choice of name is 'dumbass'

Expect the site to disappear very quickly. Nobody that dumbassish should be running a financial site.


In my experience, most Arab care less about copyrights/legal stuff, specially online because of the lack of laws in this area, people don't use TM names because they love to break the law, but, because of less awareness about related issues...

I remember these old days when I first entered the biz, I had zero knowledge about these legal stuff, the first thing I thought about was to look for TM names to sell for millions later ... that site gonna last, and no TM issues gonna raised (at least locally)!
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Re: paypal is the biggest obstacle faces arabic idners

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In my experience, most Arab care less about copyrights/legal stuff, specially online because of the lack of laws in this area, people don't use TM names because they love to break the law, but, because of less awareness about related issues...

I remember these old days when I first entered the biz, I had zero knowledge about these legal stuff, the first thing I thought about was to look for TM names to sell for millions later ... that site gonna last, and no TM issues gonna raised (at least locally)!
Yep, that is about the size of things. The average Arab has as much awareness of Trademark Laws as the average American has of Islamic Culture.
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Yep, that is about the size of things. The average Arab has as much awareness of Trademark Laws as the average American has of Islamic Culture.
I do not think it is a problem of awareness rather than forcing and implementation of laws. Trademark laws are not implemented although present in the constitution. The goveronments are corrupt to care about implementing such laws. So generations grew up in an unhealthy atmosphere.
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I think the more appropriate word for their choice of name is 'dumbass'

Expect the site to disappear very quickly. Nobody that dumbassish should be running a financial site.
I first saw this site at facebook sponsored links

I do not know how facebook approved his ads ... I always have problems with facebook ads strict rules although I do not infringe any TMs or use something inappropriate...
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Old 26th November 2012, 04:17 AM
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Re: paypal is the biggest obstacle faces arabic idners

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In my experience, most Arab care less about copyrights/legal stuff, specially online because of the lack of laws in this area, people don't use TM names because they love to break the law, but, because of less awareness about related issues...

I remember these old days when I first entered the biz, I had zero knowledge about these legal stuff, the first thing I thought about was to look for TM names to sell for millions later ... that site gonna last, and no TM issues gonna raised (at least locally)!
It will be Paypal that raises the TM issue. Its called UDRP and applied worldwide. Ignorance is not bliss with domain names.
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Re: paypal is the biggest obstacle faces arabic idners

Is there any evidence that this site is not legit?

WHOIS is hidden. It may be owned by Paypal/Ebay. Or it may be a licensee of Ebay.

If they want to launch existing services in new markets, the smartest thing for established Western companies to do is to license their IP to locals who know the marketing landscape.
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Re: paypal is the biggest obstacle faces arabic idners

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Re: paypal is the biggest obstacle faces arabic idners

Welcome. I only have 2 questions
  1. are you affiliated with PayPal?
  2. assuming you are not affiliated with PayPal, how long do you think it will be before you are sued?
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Re: paypal is the biggest obstacle faces arabic idners

how r u my friend ...

i'm just an arabic man who tried there srervices

they told me what i've post

for your questions

i've asked them and they tell me that

they aren't affiliate with paypal

about sued i do'nt know much about this ..
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Re: paypal is the biggest obstacle faces arabic idners

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how r u my friend ...

i'm just an arabic man who tried there srervices

they told me what i've post

for your questions

i've asked them and they tell me that

they aren't affiliate with paypal

about sued i do'nt know much about this ..
You need to know that you are taking great risk to use unlicensed insecure ways to transfer money online, although it may appear cheap and easy but this website can vanish in a day and you loose your money

Please Never recommend illegal websites to other people although you are satisfied with their services

People worldwide take this seriously and if paypal knew about it they will jump immediately and you will not find this website again.
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Welcome. I only have 2 questions
  1. are you affiliated with PayPal?
  2. assuming you are not affiliated with PayPal, how long do you think it will be before you are sued?
He is not the owner . he just copied and quoted their message
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Re: paypal is the biggest obstacle faces arabic idners

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He is not the owner . he just copied and quoted their message
so it's coincidence that a day after receiving a ping back from a link to that site quoted here, he signs up here?

i think he's the owner, and just playing dumb to avoid the awkward questions.
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so it's coincidence that a day after receiving a ping back from a link to that site quoted here, he signs up here?

i think he's the owner, and just playing dumb to avoid the awkward questions.
Sure looks like it. Maybe the inability to use Paypal isn't the only obstacle to development of the Arab internet.
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so it's coincidence that a day after receiving a ping back from a link to that site quoted here, he signs up here?

i think he's the owner, and just playing dumb to avoid the awkward questions.
Some don't need to play very hard
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Yep, that is about the size of things. The average Arab has as much awareness of Trademark Laws as the average American has of Islamic Culture.
Totally agree...


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I do not think it is a problem of awareness rather than forcing and implementation of laws. Trademark laws are not implemented although present in the constitution. The goveronments are corrupt to care about implementing such laws. So generations grew up in an unhealthy atmosphere.
I believe both plays a role, laws exist but very weak to protect anyone, lack of awareness makes no one even know that he can take infringers to court!
generations grew up in an unhealthy atmosphere ... so hard, but true!


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It will be Paypal that raises the TM issue. Its called UDRP and applied worldwide. Ignorance is not bliss with domain names.
I am aware about UDRP, I was talking about local courts, but if PP decided to do so, that site won't stand and would lose the case 100% I believe...


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so it's coincidence that a day after receiving a ping back from a link to that site quoted here, he signs up here?

i think he's the owner, and just playing dumb to avoid the awkward questions.
I'd believe so too, it would seem too wired for me if he isn't the owner!! same writing style, date of registration and type of participation in the forum over that past day, sick attitude!
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