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[Rubber Duck]

I am just astounded that apparently intelligent people still see the value of doing this as the monetary worth of a share or stake in the forum. I never seen it that way and still don't. Ask Craig, how much he is making? It may explain the complete lack of investment in this forum. Perhaps he has some ideas that he would develop, only it just isn't financially viable for him to do so?

If what you saying is that you are prepared to sit and watch other break their backs and wait and see as to whether or not there will be some eventual benefit before you are going to take the very basic supportive step of actually posting information there to help create the necessary ambience to give it any hope of success, then you must have some basic understanding of why the towel was thrown in.

[idn]

Originally Posted by Rubber Duck

I am just astounded that apparently intelligent people still see the value of doing this as the monetary worth of a share or stake in the forum. I never seen it that way and still don't. Ask Craig, how much he is making? It may explain the complete lack of investment in this forum. Perhaps he has some ideas that he would develop, only it just isn't financially viable for him to do so?

If what you saying is that you are prepared to sit and watch other break their backs and wait and see as to whether or not there will be some eventual benefit before you are going to take the very basic supportive step of actually posting information there to help create the necessary ambience to give it any hope of success, then you must have some basic understanding of why the towel was thrown in.

Ask Adam instead of Craig how much he makes from his forum, better yet, ask him how much he thinks he could sell it for.


No, I am not watching anyone break their backs, I am saying that since the forum has not provided additional benefit I primarily post on this forum. Simple as that.


Also, people in general need present day value, they might be told that this is what the future may bring, but since the future is not definite, current benefit is needed. Why is that such a hard concept to understand?

[Rubber Duck]

Yes, and ask Adam to reach out and develop services for non-English communities who write in a variety of different scripts and then see what response you get.

You might also have a look at the wider picture and note how many of the other forums are not for profit.

Even Adams forum is not as lucrative as you might think. It is the best example of a commercial forum, but strip away all the Bronze Members that never show and the Gold Members that got Free Lifetime Membership, take into account all the discount upgrading, and then remember that there is no recurring income from any of the members and it doesn't strike me that it is worth as much as many assume.

[touchring]

Originally Posted by Rubber Duck

Yes, and ask Adam to reach out and develop services for non-English communities who write in a variety of different scripts and then see what response you get.

You might also have a look at the wider picture and note how many of the other forums are not for profit.

Even Adams forum is not as lucrative as you might think. It is the best example of a commercial forum, but strip away all the Bronze Members that never show and the Gold Members that got Free Lifetime Membership, take into account all the discount upgrading, and then remember that there is no recurring income from any of the members and it doesn't strike me that it is worth as much as many assume.

I think the forum's worth is not so much as in adsense money but reputation. Reputation is worth a lot of money. RD and Olney wouldn't have made 10% of the sale they did, if they have not started this forum. Try selling in DNF before IDNF took off!

Even Digitalpoint, an Alexa 150 site! probably earns no more than 20-30k a month. After the adsense sharing, maybe left 10k-15k. Big money in most of Asia, in Singapore as well, tremendous money in China (100k Yuan runs a small factory ), but probably a piece of cake in London or New York or Tokyo after factoring in performance bonuses?

[Rubber Duck]

Originally Posted by touchring

I think the forum's worth is not so much as in adsense money but reputation. Reputation is worth a lot of money. RD and Olney wouldn't have made 10% of the sale they did, if they have not started this forum. Try selling in DNF before IDNF took off!

Even Digitalpoint, an Alexa 150 site! probably earns no more than 20-30k a month. After the adsense sharing, maybe left 10k-15k. Big money in most of Asia, in Singapore as well, tremendous money in China (100k Yuan runs a small factory ), but probably a piece of cake in London or New York or Tokyo after factoring in performance bonuses?

You are getting closer, but being a forum owner doesn't actually mean that you can sell you domains for more than any of the other respected traders on the forum. Ask Olney, he will tell you. Nobody is going to pay megabucks for you domains simply because you are the next DCG. If you domains are good and you have the reputation they will sell without your lumbering yourself with a forum!

A Forum is a marketing tool, pure and simple. It is about creating a learning environment where people can come to understand the value of your investements and provide a means of exchanging information, thereby facilitating sales and other business transactions.

[touchring]

Originally Posted by Rubber Duck

You are getting closer, but being a forum owner doesn't actually mean that you can sell you domains for more than any of the other respected traders on the forum. Ask Olney, he will tell you. Nobody is going to pay megabucks for you domains simply because you are the next DCG. If you domains are good and you have the reputation they will sell without your lumbering yourself with a forum!

A Forum is a marketing tool, pure and simple. It is about creating a learning environment where people can come to understand the value of your investements and provide a means of exchanging information, thereby facilitating sales and other business transactions.

Well, i think being a forum owner does make a big difference and helps reputation significantly, at least for western buyers. Whereas, some Asian buyers are more down to dollar and cents - people will risk just to save 5%.

A look at Dopa will tell you the mentality - who cares if the site is down. Read about the fake milk incident? Milk makers will use talcum powder instead of real milk to save money - what cruelty!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/3648583.stm