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IDNs in .RU

Coming in January to the registrar near you, if you haven't heard it already.

They are talking about a sunrise period, of course. Would be interesting to watch the progress as well as the prices on the secondary market.


http://www.utro.ru/news/2006/10/25/595564.shtml
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Re: IDNs in .RU

Any idea on pricing yet Explorer?
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Re: IDNs in .RU

This IDN thing must be catching on.

Sunrise means nothing left for your average Joe.
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Re: IDNs in .RU

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Any idea on pricing yet Explorer?
Not sure the pricing is set yet, but I feel it shouldn't be different from ascii.ru names, which is around $20.

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This IDN thing must be catching on.

Sunrise means nothing left for your average Joe.
Very true.
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Re: IDNs in .RU

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Sunrise means nothing left for your average Joe.
Hmm...maybe.

I still reckon there would be a lot of nice IDN's available that will be snapped up by some of the players here.

Particularly after having the luxury of owning them in .com's & .net's for a while and getting a good idea of their traffic potential...
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Re: IDNs in .RU

OK, here we go again...

I have some cheap Russian.coms for sale
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Re: IDNs in .RU

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This IDN thing must be catching on.

Sunrise means nothing left for your average Joe.
It not only means they are catching on, it means there will be big publicity! It will mean that many Russian Organisations will also be under nationalist pressure to switch their content to IDN.

I would build up your hopes of getting anything very interesting, unless perhaps you own the equivalent ASCII which may or may not give you some edge.
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Re: IDNs in .RU

This should produce quite a bit of publicity for IDNs , as well as some entertaining reading, stories about who has rights to секс.ru ect. wasn't sex trademarked 180 times or so for the .eu sunrise?

Is this the first sunrise period for IDNs? I was under the impression that most were first come first serve.

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Coming in January to the registrar near you, if you haven't heard it already.

They are talking about a sunrise period, of course. Would be interesting to watch the progress as well as the prices on the secondary market.


http://www.utro.ru/news/2006/10/25/595564.shtml
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This should produce quite a bit of publicity for IDNs , as well as some entertaining reading, stories about who has rights to секс.ru ect. wasn't sex trademarked 180 times or so for the .eu sunrise?

Is this the first sunrise period for IDNs? I was under the impression that most were first come first serve.

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If they are being Sunrised then a certainly level of interest must be anticipated!
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Re: IDNs in .RU

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If they are being Sunrised then a certainly level of interest must be anticipated!
The level of interest should jump through the roof once they wake up next week and realize they could type in native characters.

My bet is 99% of top keywords will be gone in the first few seconds, just like with .eu.
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Re: IDNs in .RU

I could have sworn that someone wrote IDN.ru would never happen?
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Re: IDNs in .RU

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I could have sworn that someone wrote IDN.ru would never happen?
Hmmm...maybe you mean idn.ру, which is Russian for "RU". That indeed shouldn't happen because it looks exactly like .py, which belongs to Paraguay.
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Explorer, can you see what the news is on this subject (if they know about it) at dommenforum.
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Re: IDNs in .RU

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Explorer, can you see what the news is on this subject (if they know about it) at dommenforum.
Not a huge discussion, but mostly positive, actually. Some are a bit skeptical since it's still idn.ascii and users will still have to switch keyboards.
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Not a huge discussion, but mostly positive, actually. Some are a bit skeptical since it's still idn.ascii and users will still have to switch keyboards.
Are you trying to tell me that most of them don't already have bi-lingual keyboards? This toggling nonsense is complete bollucks. The presumption is that if you are Russian surfing the internet in the Russian language that you will commence in cyrillic and end in cyrillic. You have to toggle to Latin to put the domain part of a URL into the address bar, but much of the rest of it could be cyrillic anyway including subdomains. All that IDN.ASCII means is that you don't toggle out of cyrillic as early as you would with ASCII.ASCII.

If those Genii at Dommenforum actually attack the problem from two separate keyboards, then frankly are their opinions worth sampling?
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Re: IDNs in .RU

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Are you trying to tell me that most of them don't already have bi-lingual keyboards? This toggling nonsense is complete bollucks. The presumption is that if you are Russian surfing the internet in the Russian language that you will commence in cyrillic and end in cyrillic. You have to toggle to Latin to put the domain part of a URL into the address bar, but much of the rest of it could be cyrillic anyway including subdomains. All that IDN.ASCII means is that you don't toggle out of cyrillic as early as you would with ASCII.ASCII.

If those Genii at Dommenforum actually attack the problem from two separate keyboards, then frankly are their opinions worth sampling?
I never got to hear any real explanation from any of the Russians that "decided" idn's are no good up to date...
And with all respects to they're based on nothing opinion...looking at they're ascii domains...i wont worry too much...just reflects alot of they're domain market knowledge in general

Do you see idn.ru having more positive or negative consequences on Russian idn.com/net?
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Re: IDNs in .RU

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Are you trying to tell me that most of them don't already have bi-lingual keyboards? This toggling nonsense is complete bollucks. The presumption is that if you are Russian surfing the internet in the Russian language that you will commence in cyrillic and end in cyrillic. You have to toggle to Latin to put the domain part of a URL into the address bar, but much of the rest of it could be cyrillic anyway including subdomains. All that IDN.ASCII means is that you don't toggle out of cyrillic as early as you would with ASCII.ASCII.

If those Genii at Dommenforum actually attack the problem from two separate keyboards, then frankly are their opinions worth sampling?
Of course, the majority of them have bi-lingual keyboards. Otherwise, how would they write emails to each other? The keyboard switching has been going on since computers were invented. What they probably mean is idn.ascii solution is not perfect, since it's not convinient to switch keyboards. Makes sense. It's not perfect.

As far as their opinions, I think they have to be different from ours by definition. If they weren’t, there is no way we could have registered what we had registered.
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I never got to hear any real explanation from any of the Russians that "decided" idn's are no good up to date...
And with all respects to they're based on nothing opinion...looking at they're ascii domains...i wont worry too much...just reflects alot of they're domain market knowledge in general

Do you see idn.ru having more positive or negative consequences on Russian idn.com/net?
I think earlier release of IDN.RU will mean faster adoption of IDN.com but a greater liklihood that the .RU will manage to maintain much of it market share. There will be huge damage done to its market share between release of IE7 and the end of the dot RU sunrise, as awareness will be hightened but only dot coms will be available. Some damage is inevitable as dot RU needed to be made available before IE7 release, but the smaller the delay the more will be salvaged. I am relaxed either way.

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Of course, the majority of them have bi-lingual keyboards. Otherwise, how would they write emails to each other? The keyboard switching has been going on since computers were invented. What they probably mean is idn.ascii solution is not perfect, since it's not convinient to switch keyboards. Makes sense. It's not perfect.

As far as their opinions, I think they have to be different from ours by definition. If they weren’t, there is no way we could have registered what we had registered.
So no milk is better than half a glass to these Gurus of the East then. We all know that not have to switch at all is preferable, and that IDN.ASCII is a temporary solution. It is, however, a bit like saying, if I cannot have IE8 now, then I prefer to stay with IE6. We have witnessed these guys in action on this forum. Say no more!
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