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Old 30th October 2006, 03:37 PM
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Time to tell Vint the Truth!

Reading this article from BBC on Vints address to IGF, you would think that IDN were a brand-new concept, not something which has been resolving through the DNS for several years. OK, he is referring to the Top Level Extensions, we know that, but Vint, please try to be explicit, so wally brains like Auntie don't get completely confused.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/6099370.stm
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Re: Time to tell Vint the Truth!

Mr Cerf said that in order for other scripts to be introduced into the domain name system, there needed to be rigorous testing to ensure that users could be certain they will reach their online destination no matter which script they used.

Someone tell the BBC that they were introduced seveal years ago.
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Re: Time to tell Vint the Truth!

It sounds cooler if people thought they are new - you know?
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Old 30th October 2006, 05:54 PM
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Re: Time to tell Vint the Truth!

No, that is about the daftest thing you have said in a while.

The perception here is that it will be a least another 5 years before anything happens rather than Thursday this week.

If people think nothing is going to happen for 5 years they will delay all the stuff that needs to be done immediately, indefinitely. Way to go Touchring!
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Re: Time to tell Vint the Truth!

I think IDNs have been *mainly* "introduced" to people involved in domain names and Internet development - and then mainly during development of the standards and related applications, although I know they have, to some degree, been promoted on various registrar sites.

It seems, to me, that IDN.com, IDN.net, etc. is part of the ongoing development, with IDN.IDN as the "real" goal of IDNs. So, *if* there is an "introduction" to be made, it may be the "real introduction," (to the general public) when DNAME, or another IDN.IDN implementation is ready.

Anyway, without widespread use of IE7, a too-early introduction (of domains that don't work / don't appear to work) could be discouraging for many.

But even if IDNs with gTLDs (IDN.com/.net, etc) is the ultimate goal, IDNs will still need to be "introduced" (now and for months or years) to those, unaware of IDNs, who will find them useful, valuable and essential for their particular needs.
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Old 30th October 2006, 06:14 PM
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Re: Time to tell Vint the Truth!

IDN are being introduced to people of a daily basis in Russia, Japan and China.

This will be greatly extended when a lot of URL redirects are introduced and tied in with IDN branding.

This branding has already started. Some companies in Russia and Japan are already branding on domains owned by others. The introduction thing is not difficult. Once IE7 is there it will only take one person in a 1000 to try to type in IDN Urls that are plastered just about everywhere, realise that actually work and then show a few friends. This can spread almost as quickly as IE7 can be downloaded.

Those that have a problem getting IE7 will soon understand what they are missing and almost certainly end up getting hold of Firefox or Opera.

It doesn't take a genius to realise that something as intuitive as typing in Domain names in your Address bar could be something that the majority of people in Japan have experienced by Christmas. Once the marketing people get hold of this and this is just added to their arsenal in an arms race, this could happen in weeks rather than months.

Most peoples first experience of navigating in using IDN will be more like a quicky behind the bike shed than an arranged marriage years in the planning.
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Re: Time to tell Vint the Truth!

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Most peoples first experience of navigating in using IDN will be more like a quicky behind the bike shed than an arranged marriage years in the planning.
Are there a lot of bike sheds in Japan?
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