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Old 29th November 2006, 01:17 AM
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Thumbs down Houston - We have a problem IDN is not working!

I'll be the first to say on this forum - IDN's are just not working -
Maybe we can figure out what is really going on here.

Japanese IDN's are just not working correctly. Obvously they are not working as we expected at this stage of the game. We need to figure out what the problem is.

How can my Hebrew IDN's possibly be getting more hits than my
Japanese/CN Domains? (I'm talking about domains like SAKE.com / Kane.com /ICHI.com ??

I suspect one of the following.

A - Something is not resolving correctly
B - Someone is stealing the traffic
C - Asia is waiting for top level IDN's to debut (Doubtful)

My gut says there is a real problem out there and it's not just about spreading the
word either. Firefox was around for 2 years and the hits were still low.

There is a missing piece here.

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Old 29th November 2006, 01:38 AM
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Re: Houston - We have a problem IDN does not work!

For your SAKE.com / Kane.com /ICHI.com, these are also chinese words - try parking at dopa or silverclicks (if you got an account).
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Re: Houston - We have a problem IDN does not work!

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I'll be the first to say on this forum - IDN's are just not working -
Maybe we can figure out what is really going on here.
IDNs are doing just fine, maybe you and others have had too high of expectations, or are listening to the trash talk from the naysayers.
On the plus, IE7 came out at the beginning of Q4, not the end as many thought. Vista is coming out in January and IE7 should start to make headway by mid-next year and traffic should pick up steadily from April or May on next year.

On the negative, IE7 release for Japan, Russia, and China is in the second and third waves, so a bit more waiting game. I think most of opinions here have always been that traffic would start to pick up a good bit 6 months to a year after release of IE7.
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Re: Houston - We have a problem IDN does not work!

I'll say it's a problem with Sedo & the way you set up your parking page.

There's not a bit of Japanese when I look at any of your pages in Tokyo.

I'm getting plenty of traffic from search engines.

Read through the parking section for pointers.

It's not broke you just didn't set up things right.
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Re: Houston - We have a problem IDN does not work!

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I'm getting plenty of traffic from search engines.



It's not broke you just didn't set up things right.
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Re: Houston - We have a problem IDN does not work!

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I'll say it's a problem with Sedo & the way you set up your parking page.
Try parking at Namedrive, you can see your ads displayed and they have much flashier templates and
headers than any I have seen at SEDO.
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Re: Houston - We have a problem IDN does not work!

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I'll be the first to say on this forum - IDN's are just not working -
True, you are the first one and the only one on this forum to say IDNs are not working.

So sell your domains cheap while you still can, and don't forget to inform me first :-)
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Re: Houston - We have a problem IDN does not work!

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Try parking at Namedrive, you can see your ads displayed and they have much flashier templates and
headers than any I have seen at SEDO.

I think he is talking about views rather than clicks.
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I think he is talking about views rather than clicks.
I know that, but my point was that Namedrive seems to bring native ads even to your "vanilla" setting parked domains.
Try clicking on the magnifying glass on some that you have not settings on.
Once you create settings, you can get more ads and more important, higher paying ads as well.
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Re: Houston - We have a problem IDN does not work!

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I know that, but my point was that Namedrive seems to bring native ads even to your "vanilla" setting parked domains.
Try clicking on the magnifying glass on some that you have not settings on.
Once you create settings, you can get more ads and more important, higher paying ads as well.

Yes, this is useful info, but point is, traffic on non-european names is going to take sometime to appear, whatever parking we do can't fast forward the process. The key is patience.
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Re: Houston - We have a problem IDN does not work!

Parking or developed if all the text is English before IE7 & IDNs are widely used type in traffic will be low. If you at least have pages that can be indexed with a little relevant text you can get traffic from the search engines.
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Re: Houston - We have a problem IDN does not work!

Javago please pm your list and price !
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Re: Houston - We have a problem IDN does not work!

Javago, I'll trade you some domains with traffic for 酒.com
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Re: Houston - We have a problem IDN does not work!

Yes, perhaps I should trade you 酒.com for boots.jp that got 15,000 hits this past month.
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Re: Houston - We have a problem IDN does not work!

Interesting, it seems that japanese names are getting significant SERP boost from Yahoo for keyword searches.

Anyone has both .com and .jp versions of the same name and can compare SERPs?

Issue now being is how long this advantage can last and if there is going to be a sandbox effect.
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Re: Houston - We have a problem IDN does not work!

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Interesting, it seems that japanese names are getting significant SERP boost from Yahoo for keyword searches.

Anyone has both .com and .jp versions of the same name and can compare SERPs?

Issue now being is how long this advantage can last and if there is going to be a sandbox effect.
I can't add much to this conversation other than I have a .jp and .com example they do not appear anywhere in Yahoo.com or Yahoo.jp. But they do in Google.

they are parked.
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Re: Houston - We have a problem IDN does not work!

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Originally Posted by javago
I'll be the first to say on this forum - IDN's are just not working -
Maybe we can figure out what is really going on here.

Japanese IDN's are just not working correctly. Obvously they are not working as we expected at this stage of the game. We need to figure out what the problem is.

How can my Hebrew IDN's possibly be getting more hits than my
Japanese/CN Domains? (I'm talking about domains like SAKE.com / Kane.com /ICHI.com ??

I suspect one of the following.

A - Something is not resolving correctly
B - Someone is stealing the traffic
C - Asia is waiting for top level IDN's to debut (Doubtful)

My gut says there is a real problem out there and it's not just about spreading the
word either. Firefox was around for 2 years and the hits were still low.

There is a missing piece here.
I agree with you .... anyone can easily notice that from overture results

an arabic IDN with 1000 OVT receives much more views than a japanese with 10,000 OVT

We have discussed this in the past but none could figure where the problem is

I think the future will tell.....
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Re: Houston - We have a problem IDN does not work!

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I agree with you .... anyone can easily notice that from overture results

an arabic IDN with 1000 OVT receives much more views than a japanese with 10,000 OVT

We have discussed this in the past but none could figure where the problem is

I think the future will tell.....
Olney has already explained why parked pages don't work in Japanese.

If I remember correctly it's because the Japanese mostly use Yahoo, and the Yahoo indexing spiders arrive tagged as USA as thats where the servers are based. This means the parking companies serve geo targeted ads in English, hence your page gets indexed in English, and no Japanese terms anywhere.

If your names Javago had a simple one page website with Japanese terms on, it would be very interesting to see what analytics you get back from it.
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If your names Javago had a simple one page website with Japanese terms on, it would be very interesting to see what analytics you get back from it.
No nothing will happen , Javago please pm me your list before they all start preaching Thanks
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