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Old 12-18-2006, 01:47 AM
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Post ccTLDs Come and Go

”I'm against .ccTLDs PERIOD. Get rid of them. They serve no purpose in the internationalized world except "language" tags that are now irrelevant because of IDNs. The geographic concept to domain naming was abandoned a long time ago. Country names are like Chinese dynasties, impermanent entities subject to the peoples' approval of the rulers' mandate of heaven.” (blastfromthepast)

”.ccTLD is like a toy to please every country.” (Giant)

”ccTLD's are perfectly fine for people doing business in their own country.” (Drewbert)

”Nobody is ever going to do away with ccTLDs.” (Rubber Duck)

”Guys, please do not start saying cltd is useless only because you have not invested in them. ” (touchring)


What ICANN Says

A select list of ISO 3166-1 alterations that help illustrate the dimension of the issue are:

Zaire's ("ZR") renaming to the Democratic Republic of the Congo ("CD").

The breakup of the Soviet Union resulting in the code "SU" being replaced with codes for the independent states, such as "RU", "BY", and "UA". Every former soviet state has a new code, which been allocated to an operator by IANA.

East Timor's code changing from "TP" to "TL".

Czechoslovakia’s ("CS") division into the Czech Republic ("CZ") and Slovakia ("SK").

The remaining components of Yugoslavia ("YU") becoming Serbia and Montenegro ("CS"). Following a referendum, in September 2006 Serbia and Montenegro further split into two independent identities Serbia (“RS”) and Montenegro (“ME”).

Should a code represent an area that does not align to a present-day country, the matter of which government and law has jurisdiction becomes unclear.

http://www.icann.org/announcements/a...-2-05dec06.htm

Comments on recent .SU deletion publicity

If we speak about .SU, the administrator even continues
commercial registrations in the zone which is to disappear in
accordance to the ICANN's policy. They have no right nor
permission to do so; the official page devoted to the .SU ccTLD
displays no official registration service URL, and as far as I
know there's no official agreement of any kind between ICANN and
the present administrator of .SU. However, they continue to tell
their customers that ICANN never took any official decisions
about removing of the domain and there's nothing to worry about,
and continue to collect money from lots of new unaware customers.

Once you publish another decision, they even start to say that
their customers perhaps will have to sue ICANN (!), while as far
as I understand, they'd better sue the unfair administrator.

Definitely all this fraud needs to be stopped. If you let the
things be as they are, this violation of the well-known ccTLD
delegation policy will be used as a good example for more unfair
people who deal with domains. Don't let this go.

http://forum.icann.org/lists/cctld-s.../msg00024.html
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Old 09-24-2007, 01:43 AM
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Old 09-24-2007, 05:03 AM
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Re: ccTLDs Come and Go

ccTLDs rule.. I among others can't wait until IDN.IDN hits the root for them (likely to be before gTLD goes IDN.IDN etc. ... did anyone get any news from the recent "closed door" sessions held last weekend I think it was?

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Old 09-24-2007, 05:22 AM
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Re: ccTLDs Come and Go

Yes, gTLD will hit the street first.

It is only then that real value of the dot com extension will become obvious to everyone. We will all have a chance to see just how much difference IDN at the top level really makes.

Anyway, what I can tell you is that the IDN appearing in the Associated Cities Live Auction will all be dot Com. First hand knowledge or intuitive guess, well I will leave you to work that one out!
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Old 09-24-2007, 05:46 AM
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Re: ccTLDs Come and Go

Good luck with everyone who made it.
There are a few of you guys who had more great Geo Domains to spare than most of us.


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Yes, gTLD will hit the street first.

It is only then that real value of the dot com extension will become obvious to everyone. We will all have a chance to see just how much difference IDN at the top level really makes.

Anyway, what I can tell you is that the IDN appearing in the Associated Cities Live Auction will all be dot Com. First hand knowledge or intuitive guess, well I will leave you to work that one out!
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Old 09-24-2007, 05:48 AM
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Re: ccTLDs Come and Go

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Yes, gTLD will hit the street first.
Anyway, what I can tell you is that the IDN appearing in the Associated Cities Live Auction will all be dot Com. First hand knowledge or intuitive guess, well I will leave you to work that one out!

This is almost definite, since the target audience is the .ascii USA investors and not non-USA based investors (who due to .ascii all have a preference for .com or .net).

Any news on the closed door ICANN sessions - was meant to be discussion on IDN.IDN for ccTLDs inclusion in the root as I understood it?

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Re: ccTLDs Come and Go

Asiaplay, I think you're referring to the ICANN meeting scheduled for the end of October, not September.

RD, when will Associated Cities be releasing the final list of domains going to auction?

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Old 09-24-2007, 06:34 AM
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Re: ccTLDs Come and Go

Zenmarketing... opps... is it not until the end of next month (must admit I never marked the exact date down, as USA is a long & difficult drive from Asia )

Thanks... I will await feedback end of October on this then - cheers, Asiaplay
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Asiaplay, I think you're referring to the ICANN meeting scheduled for the end of October, not September.

RD, when will Associated Cities be releasing the final list of domains going to auction?

Not sure but I guess it won't be long!
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Re: ccTLDs Come and Go

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Anyway, what I can tell you is that the IDN appearing in the Associated Cities Live Auction will all be dot Com. First hand knowledge or intuitive guess, well I will leave you to work that one out!

Aren't Cities in ccTLD reserved by the registry?
That seems to make .com, .net etc. the only play in this space.
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Aren't Cities in ccTLD reserved by the registry?
That seems to make .com, .net etc. the only play in this space.

Glad to see someone is awake!
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