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China's leadership vows to "purify" the internet

QUOTE: Chinese Communist Party big cheese Hu Jintao today announced the country's intention to maximise the economic potential of the web, while seeking to "purify the internet environment", Reuters reports.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/01..._purifies_net/

QUOTE: The comments came as the party's 24-strong politburo met to cast an eye over China's burgeoning internet - boasting 137m registered users at the end of 2006.

I like the 137,000,000 REGISTERED USERS- that is barely 10% of the population.
A true growth market
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Re: China's leadership vows to "purify" the internet

Who was it that talked about purifying something ....?? Oh yeah, it was Hitler
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Re: China's leadership vows to "purify" the internet

I think that the internet "genie" is out of the bottle. With proxy servers, wireless and satellite communications, it is going to be a challenge to hold back the information from all sides over the internet.
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Re: China's leadership vows to "purify" the internet

网禊 is still available.
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Re: China's leadership vows to "purify" the internet

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Who was it that talked about purifying something ....?? Oh yeah, it was Hitler
No, Hu Jintao is a nice guy. Purify the internet, get rid of the vices is good for business. Remember, China is now open for business.
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Re: China's leadership vows to "purify" the internet

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Who was it that talked about purifying something ....?? Oh yeah, it was Hitler
Hitler ruined the concept of purity and purification for European culture and society.

However, the concept of purity is still held in regard in many non-European societies.
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Re: China's leadership vows to "purify" the internet

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wtf, registered users? or do they mean users with an ISP account?
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wtf, registered users? or do they mean users with an ISP account?
I was curious about that myself. Since the government attempts to monitor the internet they must have
some type of registration for computers or users, combined with perhaps static IP addresses for most?
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Re: China's leadership vows to "purify" the internet

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I was curious about that myself. Since the government attempts to monitor the internet they must have
some type of registration for computers or users, combined with perhaps static IP addresses for most?
Most people use dynamic ips. I think the 137,000,000 is the number of ISP accounts. (Dialups + Broadband + Cable).

A lot of statistics in China is under reported - if you understand the civil service mentality - always report lower when it's high, so that next year's figure will be higher even if there's a drop.
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Re: China's leadership vows to "purify" the internet

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Hitler ruined the concept of purity and purification for European culture and society.

However, the concept of purity is still held in regard in many non-European societies.
Purity in China = whatever is good for the Chinese Communist Party (the only legal voice).

In China it is illegal to connect to the Internet through a channel other than the Government’s Ministry of Posts and Telecommunications. The Ministry of Information (MII) overseas all networks connected to the global Internet. The only legal access is provided by nine state-licensed Internet access providers (IAPs).
In theory all Internet activity is monitored. Cyber cafes are where most Chinese log on to the Internet. ID must be provided and the cafe owners are required by law to log all sites and info viewed by each individual and to keep it on file for at least 60 days.

The state run news agency, Xinhua has reported the official line on what Internet purifying targets, “superstitious, pornographic, violence-related, gambling and other harmful information." In fact, it is clear that the target also includes news reports, blogs, emails, etc. that portray the PRC leadership in a negative light or spread thoughts that are not wanted by the CCP. Such thoughts include those related to Tibet, Taiwan, democracy, history, etc. and even domestic news regarding unrest, local government abuses or natural disasters.

In addition to the cafe and ISPs monitoring everyone in order to keep their license. There are over 30,000 cybercops monitoring Internet users. Additionally the government encourages citizens to rat each other out. There are centers to report abusers and collect cash rewards.

You might be thinking, so what, that you could use proxy, satellite etc. For one it is more difficult to accomplish these things in China. Second, penalties for such crimes are so severe that it really is not worth it to bother for most.
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Re: China's leadership vows to "purify" the internet

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Hitler ruined the concept of purity and purification for European culture and society.

However, the concept of purity is still held in regard in many non-European societies.

If i'm not wrong, the european concept of purity is based on religion and ethnicity. The context of purity within China is completely different. The Confucian theology emphasize total obedience to the state and law, and in family units -> obedience to father, husband. Purity might refer to the self-cultivation exhorted by Confucianists.

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Re: China's leadership vows to "purify" the internet

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If i'm not wrong, the european concept of purity is based on religion and ethnicity. The context of purity within China is completely different. The Confucian theology emphasize total obedience to the state and law, and in family units -> obedience to father, husband. Purity might refer to the self-cultivation exhorted by Confucianists.

After taking control of China in 1949, Mao borrowed several tenants from Confucian thought while at the same time denouncing the philosophy as feudal. Mao’s rule instructed collective responsibility over the individual, redirected loyalties to the CCP (or himself) from the family or emperor, and defined the virtuous man as one who followed Mao’s movement of the time. Mao’s authoritarian government relied much on ideology implanted by age-old Confucian elements in Chinese culture.
The post Mao Chinese Communist Party has encouraged the populace to continue the ancient ideology that relied on one or a few strong individuals to drive the country. Efforts to strictly regulate the Internet are aimed at continuing the monopoly on rule held by the CCP. The pressure is on the CCP to maintain an environment where the economy will continue to grow and increase the number of individuals that are able to take part. It is a race against civil unrest that could lead to the toppling of CCP rule and a more chaotic China. The potential economic benefits of the Internet could greatly aid the CCP in accomplishing their goal, but it will be a tenuous balance between content control and market access as they attempt to overcome the difficulties of transformation.
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