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Old 16th February 2007, 11:12 PM
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.zhonggou domains

Can anyone tell me how to view the China version of Internationalized domains from the USA?

五道口.网络.cn

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Re: .zhonggou domains

"Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage" by IE7 from Canada.
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Re: .zhonggou domains

Simple. Use a Chinese domain name server, instead of your ISP's.
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Re: .zhonggou domains

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"Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage" by IE7 from Canada.
FIREFOX can't get it either from US-

Server not found

Firefox can't find the server at 五道口.网络.cn.

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Simple. Use a Chinese domain name server, instead of your ISP's.
Blast, who provides this service?

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Re: .zhonggou domains

网络.cn resolves here and has NS provided by cnnic.

Maybe there's another sub domain that actually exists that will work?
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Re: .zhonggou domains

The domain does resolve from inside China with and without the .cn on the end.
Since this post another source informed me that my ISP must have this type of domain technology installed and those in the US do not.
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Re: .zhonggou domains

Using an alternative root is hardly some sort of special "domain technology". It's just a different text file used to provde the TLD databse for the name server.

Set the DNS on your computer to cdns3.cnnic.net.cn 210.52.214.86

and you will find that

中国互联网络信息中心.中国
中国互联网络信息中心.公司
中国互联网络信息中心.网络

all resolve fine.

CNNIC has "split the root". Usually howls of derision eminate from ICANN when this happens but this time there has been silence.

Funny that.

Even someone at Verisign was flag-waving about it, until they got their arse kicked by someone higher up at Verisign.
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Re: .zhonggou domains

Yes, it would appear that they have split the root.

Does it really matter though?

They are not really in conflict with the ICANN system at this stage and are achieving something that ICANN cannot.

If Verisign don't want to rock the boat, then they are obviously not too worried.

The Chinese would appear to be upping the Anti a little, but probably only to force ICANN to get its finger out of its arse!
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Re: .zhonggou domains

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Yes, it would appear that they have split the root.
Does it really matter though? They are not really in conflict with the ICANN system at this stage and are achieving something that ICANN cannot.
China will stay mainstream in the worldwide internet if they want to be part of "international" business and
maintain their enormous growth. One example of needing the internet is that on business vendor websites
when you click on items they redirect you to the Chinese websites to view the "latest" production style or model.

More and more Chinese companies are exhibiting at expositions and making contacts worldwide for business as well.
Most of that is done my internet as well from that point on.
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Re: .zhonggou domains

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They are not really in conflict with the ICANN system at this stage ...
They are not now but they will when IDN.idn is implemented.

I predict China will stop doing this, because it goes against China's "harmony of the world" aspiration or policy. Using "alternate roots" within ICANN system should not be tolerated.
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Re: .zhonggou domains

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Using an alternative root is hardly some sort of special "domain technology". It's just a different text file used to provde the TLD databse for the name server.

Set the DNS on your computer to cdns3.cnnic.net.cn 210.52.214.86

and you will find that

中国互联网络信息中心.中国
中国互联网络信息中心.公司
中国互联网络信息中心.网络

all resolve fine.
In Win XP I set TCP/IP to the use the following DNS server address: 210.52.214.86 rather than the typical auto obtain DNS setting,
but still could not resolve 五道口.网络 or 五道口.网络.cn

Any other ideas of how to get around this? Can anyone see their China idn.idn domains resolve from the US?
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Re: .zhonggou domains

>but still could not resolve 五道口.网络 or 五道口.网络.cn

Maybe that particular domain doesn't actually exist?
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