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Old 23rd February 2007, 06:52 AM
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Does Google Penalize for too many inbound links

Hi All,

I wanted to ask your opinions about this Googles penalty for having build too many inbound links in a short period of time

webmasterworld.com/google/3084915.htm

I need to do link building for a client and plan to simply build 10-20 links in a span of 3-6 months. Is that okay?

I plan to get links from good sources NOT blogs or forums. My client sells specialty electronics so i will only go to electronics review sites.

At any rate, this is a small site with currently 50 inbound links. will 20 additional links from quality websites that write orginal electronics reviews be a problem you think, in a 3-6 month window?
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Re: Does Google Penalize for too many inbound links

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Hi All,

I wanted to ask your opinions about this Googles penalty for having build too many inbound links in a short period of time

webmasterworld.com/google/3084915.htm

I need to do link building for a client and plan to simply build 10-20 links in a span of 3-6 months. Is that okay?

I plan to get links from good sources NOT blogs or forums. My client sells specialty electronics so i will only go to electronics review sites.

At any rate, this is a small site with currently 50 inbound links. will 20 additional links from quality websites that write orginal electronics reviews be a problem you think, in a 3-6 month window?
Absolutely not. The only thing google is possibly concerned about is people setting up or signing up for link farms. They can create hundreds or thousands of links in a few days. If you are do nothing "dodgy" you have absolutely no need to worry about getting incoming links from relevant sites. That is how Google basically measures whether your pages are worth ranking!
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Re: Does Google Penalize for too many inbound links

Avoid link farms, there's a penalty. I once tried engaging a freelancer to create links for me, but he ends up submitting to link farms - i quickly asked him to stop. This is not the kind of inbound link which i want!
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Re: Does Google Penalize for too many inbound links

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Avoid link farms, there's a penalty. I once tried engaging a freelancer to create links for me, but he ends up submitting to link farms - i quickly asked him to stop. This is not the kind of inbound link which i want!
That's why you should do this stuff yourself, so you know what is going on. But if you even think about using link farms, you really aren't the right person to be doing SEO. It's not about "tricking Google", its about building good quality content that other sites want to link to. No short cuts, just good planning and hard work.
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Re: Does Google Penalize for too many inbound links

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That's why you should do this stuff yourself, so you know what is going on. But if you even think about using link farms, you really aren't the right person to be doing SEO. It's not about "tricking Google", its about building good quality content that other sites want to link to. No short cuts, just good planning and hard work.

The days i do such work myself is gone. I've trained one of the guys in china to create links using various methods. I reckon that this sort of work cannot be done by those pay per link freelancers. It's just too risky.

Yes, i agree about the real traffic from backlinks - it can be substantial depending on the quality of the linker site.
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Re: Does Google Penalize for too many inbound links

The only other possible relevant concern I am aware of is linking to too many sites that you personally own, or 'interlinking'.
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Re: Does Google Penalize for too many inbound links

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The only other possible relevant concern I am aware of is linking to too many sites that you personally own, or 'interlinking'.

I've heard of that, but have not seen proof that it happens. Have you?

And if i'm really paranoid on this, i think i could house the various sites on different ip addresses and set different contacts in whois.
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Re: Does Google Penalize for too many inbound links

here is a simple tip for a topic-starter: create as many as you can but follow the simple rule: make each anchor text for each link unique. thus each your inbound link would be considered somewhat important. also if you create thousands links in 1 day, it would be only noticed by google when it visits you next. not the next day
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Re: Does Google Penalize for too many inbound links

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I've heard of that, but have not seen proof that it happens. Have you?

And if i'm really paranoid on this, i think i could house the various sites on different ip addresses and set different contacts in whois.
I had never heard of it until this post - http://www.idnforums.com/forums/6311...t=interlinking

Not seen any proof yet though - but I will certainly be testing the boundaries of this with a big project that's underway.
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Re: Does Google Penalize for too many inbound links

Just make a quality site, the engines change all the time and the search engines goal is to put quality on the top. Every thing they do is to try to filter cheats, scams and garbage and hand the search user the good stuff.

If a search engine gets that right then they get more customers and they get rich so this is very important to them. The major search engines will have break thru stuff in the very near future that 100% changes the search engine ranking system.
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Re: Does Google Penalize for too many inbound links

>Just make a quality site

Ah. But if you make 50 quality sites (even HIGH quality top 10) and they're all on the smae IP# and have the smae WHOIS data, then Google will penalise.
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Re: Does Google Penalize for too many inbound links

I added 150,000 links to two domains of similar content and subject.

The older more established site had them all indexed in Yahoo and MSN and shot from number 4 Google for my main keyword to number one in about 3 months time. This is a very competitive term and that move is very dramatic. The links and number 1 on Google have held for over two months. I do not think it was all because of the links, but obviously I was not punished.

The second less established site has only had Yahoo and MSN show 3,000 of those links as back-links. However, the sites rank has also improved.

Several other factors also went in to my campaign and I do not attribute everything to the links. My sites are very optimized and have quality content updated regularly.

I do not think Google will punish for adding too many links too fast. Otherwise it would be easy to kill the competition by signing them up at all the link farms.

Google loves back links and of course 1 quality back-link is better than 10,000 that are of no value. I go for both high volume crap and and high quality when I can get them.
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Re: Does Google Penalize for too many inbound links

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>Just make a quality site

Ah. But if you make 50 quality sites (even HIGH quality top 10) and they're all on the smae IP# and have the smae WHOIS data, then Google will penalise.
What is their reasoning for penalising?

Have they documented this anywhere?
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Re: Does Google Penalize for too many inbound links

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I do not think Google will punish for adding too many links too fast. Otherwise it would be easy to kill the competition by signing them up at all the link farms.

Google loves back links and of course 1 quality back-link is better than 10,000 that are of no value. I go for both high volume crap and and high quality when I can get them.
It's not number of links, but the kind of backlinks. Links from penalized sites obviously is undesirable and might incur a slight penalty.
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Re: Does Google Penalize for too many inbound links

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What is their reasoning for penalising?

Have they documented this anywhere?
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