Need Cash Fast? Facing a Cash Crunch? Will Pay Top Dollar for Quality IDNs

[Giant]

Originally Posted by johnny

I just want to reiterate that if you have a family emergency or need cash, please don't hesitate to reach out to me. I will try to help. What I will not do is to pay outrageous prices for names that don't generate revenue. You can ask for a high price, but you will not get it. This isn't about Sarcle and people who have expectations that are unrealistic. My post is to people who genuinely need the money and are willing to negotiate a fair deal. As you can see, I will not pay $XXXX for names that don't produce, what i will do it pay a fair price.

Yesterday, a fellow IDNer whose son needed surgery PMed me and that's what got me thinking to post the message. I would like to help. Because I know how tough medical emergencies can be. Everyone knows how expensive doctors can be. I will do everything I can to help. If you have reasonable expectations, i'm sure we can reach a deal. i hope i can help. i also encourage everyone here to reach out to people who need help.

I heard of a Savior 2000 years ago, now I'm seeing another one LOL. How old are you Johnny?

If you are old enough, you should have said sorry to Sarcle. Period.

[Rubber Duck]

Originally Posted by Giant

I heard of a Savior 2000 years ago, now I'm seeing another one LOL. How old are you Johnny?

History repeating itself?

Figures! I have been crying in the Wilderness for years.

Just hope I don't get my head delivered on a platter.

[bramiozo]

Originally Posted by johnny

if you're trying to sell stuff for X,XXX or XX,XXX you better be prepared to show some serious data. it's a joke sometimes when i see people ask for xx,xxx for names i wouldn't pay that much for in ASCII. dont' get ahead of yourself. IDNs are the not same as ASCIIs.

IDN - you are case in point. you post X,XXX for names that don't get more than a few dollars A YEAR! get yourself reexamined!

Johnny, with all due respect, solid terms in ascii are based on a lot more than traffic stats and Sarcle has never offered anything but solid terms and besides
we're talking about reference values here. Idn sales are currently based on sales history not so much as traffic stats. The one thing of importance here is the potential a name has, that potential can be derived from several things (as you're well aware), traffic is only one of them and currently it is reasonably meaningless;
you can't really draw negative conclusions based on the traffic stats but of course the other way around is possible.

According to your reasoning the most value domain in my portfolio is an incorrectly concatenated arabic term which doesn't show up at all in the keyword tools, according to my reason the most valuable domain is a single term chinese generic which doesn't get traffic at all, I think domaining history is on my side here...

I for one concur with Sarcle.

Originally Posted by johnny

yeah - well, let's say that giant was one of those who wanted XX,XXX for a name that's not even worth $x,xxx. i found it funny that he even considered asking xx,xxx.

261- sure. in russian, boobs are what $40 for a night? her boobs are on me. just PM. I know a good doctor who will get it for you for a discount

Now you imply that you knew very well that you were not going through with the sale for the price, yet still you let Giant go through the hassle of the escrow procedure ?

[Giant]

Originally Posted by bramiozo

Now you imply that you knew very well that you were not going through with the sale for the price, yet still you let Giant go through the hassle of the escrow procedure ?

"To err is human, to forgive is divine"

I must add, saying sorry or offering a public apology is a wise thing to do in this case.

[chinainvest]

I totally agree on the "potential of name" point. We cannot base pricing on stats/traffic when IDN compatibility has not matured in the market. We can however base pricing on the name quality and look forward and project its value when IDN compatibility does become widespread.

I had dealings with Johnny before, he's very quick on the escrow thing when nothing has been confirmed. The highest bid offered (from Jon) for one of my IDN's was 38k with no stats/traffic.

[IDNCowboy]

Originally Posted by Rubber Duck

Johnny I believe I sent you large excel files full of my names but never got a response. Whilst I found that a bit disappointing, it is not a big issue with me.
People are either happy to part with their cash or they are not. I do not normally give out names to complete time wasters, and I was a bit annoyed at first that I probably had, but it would seem that my initial judgements were not so far off. If you do not have the names, I will send them again.

oh he found your excel spreadsheet useful. He probably used it to register his hundreds of .hk's. (since they give you simp and traditional)

[Rubber Duck]

Maybe, but if I had been trying to register dot HK IDN, which I didn't, I would not have worked from my spreadsheet. It would seem even more perverse for a Chinese to do that.

[touchring]

Actually, to save seller time, it's better for the buyer to indicate which name he is interested in and then generate stats for that name, instead of generating the stats wholesale - which is very time consuming and valid only for a while.

[mdw]

Don't really care what others decide to do, but I would be very reluctant to do any deals with Johnny. Stats and data are a red herring, they don't matter even a little bit in speculating. It's always a judgement call, and if it's worth something to you then make an offer in earnest.

Sorry if I'm wrong Johnny, but it sounds like bad faith dealing. Life's too short.

[IDNCowboy]

Originally Posted by mdw

Don't really care what others decide to do, but I would be very reluctant to do any deals with Johnny. Stats and data are a red herring, they don't matter even a little bit in speculating. It's always a judgement call, and if it's worth something to you then make an offer in earnest.

Sorry if I'm wrong Johnny, but it sounds like bad faith dealing. Life's too short.

Folks, he wants to pay $xxx for premium idns without traffic/revenue. This guy is in la la land.

[Rubber Duck]

Originally Posted by IDNCowboy

Folks, he wants to pay $xxx for premium idns without traffic/revenue. This guy is in la la land.

Him and a few more and we all know who the leader of this strange cult is!

[mdw]

Being the buyer of last resort is not wrong in and of itself, if sellers volunteer to sell too cheaply.

But dealing in bad faith is not acceptable. Several instances of this behavior suggest it's not noob naivety, and deserves this bad rep.

[Drewbert]

Hey Johnny,

Does the guy who has you buying up all these names for him want to come clean, or is he quite happy to have you soiling his reputation within the industry?

[jacksonm]

Johnny,
I am offering you the following. If you deal clean, then I will certainly report it here and try to help you repair your rep. If you do me like Sarcle, then I will report the same.

NOTE: all prices are in EUR (euros)

NOTE: no stats, no traffic, but I am thinking of developing a porn site focusing on dark-skinned, french speaking girls on crèmebrûlée.com :-)

NOTE: all prices are non-negotiable, unless you want to offer more


crèmebrûlée.com - 5k
soufflé.com - 5k
côtedor.com - 15k
ブッカケ.com - 10k
打っ掛け.com - 10k
ゴックン.com - 25k



5% cumulative discount for each domain after the first, applied to the total - buy all 6 and get 25% off the total.

Johnny, PM if interested.

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jacksonm

[filmlion]

i sold some russian idns to johnny recently, and though the negotiations were a bit long (which i don't think is necessarily a bad thing) i've got the promised money fast after we agreed on all terms. so, i feel right to state it here since the topic become so hot. i want to make sure you hear all the stories. generally, i don't judge people and suggest others not to do it too. it's good to warn others about your experience but no need to attack each other. live a happy life people.

[zenmarketing]

I successfully completed a mid-$XXXX deal with Johnny via Escrow.com approximately 6 weeks ago.

[sarcle]

Originally Posted by filmlion

it's good to warn others about your experience but no need to attack each other. live a happy life people.

Yes, and I didn't say anything personal until he called me a scammer and a con-artist. So see re-read on how this thread actually went down.

He actually ruined his own rep. Not to mention attacked IDNs at the same time. Just stating the facts.

[blastfromthepast]

Originally Posted by filmlion

i don't judge people and suggest others not to do it too.

 

Originally Posted by filmlion

no need to attack each other

 

Originally Posted by filmlion

live a happy life

  

Lets put it this way: you are the first person I know to send me swear world laden missives about how I should be living my life and how my domain names suck and are worthless peices of )*(*%&$&$ via PM.

These were followed up by threats to hack my websites, etc. etc.

Don't pretend to claim any kind of moral high ground now, with your bull 'don't judge people and don't be judged' biblical quotes.

It doesn't cut it.

[filmlion]

blast, be kind and people will be kind to you, the fact you still try to attack me doesn't say anything good about you.

always remember that it was you who attacked me first so you've got a corresponding response. i am sorry if i offended you in anyway. forgive me for that, i also sometimes have emotions, but i only respond, never attack unlike you did and then immediately complaint to admin when you couldn't talk directly like a man... well, people are different, some say bad things thinking they can do it irresponsibly forever and than can't stand the response, and we must find the way to live in peace with each other. if you don't like that i can't spend $500 a week on domains like you there is no need to laugh at it and maybe wise to just pass by without silly offensive comments. i see you having problems with guys both in english and in russian forums, so maybe the problem is in you?

think about it, think wisely, and i wish you the best of luck in your life. would appreciate if you apologize for your offensive comments on several of my posts (this is when i noticed you here actually) and let's live in harmony. once again, i apologies if i offended you in any way and wish you the best. it's ok if you are not wise and gentle enough to apologize, just please don't waste my precious time. good luck. : )

[Alphamale]