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Old 17th February 2006, 04:15 AM
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Resources for developing .CN site for mainland market

Part I. you need to get permits from the information bureau.

http://www.miibeian.gov.cn/share/FAQs.htm

Depending on what kind of website you develope, you need different kinds of permits.

The minimal requirement is a "备案". If your website has bbs or chatroom you also need an "ICP" license. Both are free if you obtain through the above website. There are also service available to get them for a fee.

It seems if your hosting service is outside mainland china, you would not need these licenses, just risk being blocked.

I've seen very popular Chinese bbs sites without licenses such as:
http://www.mitbbs.com/ server based in US


Part II. .cn Domain name dispute resolution guideline newly published by cnnic on 2/14/06 expected to go into effect
in 3/2006
http://www.cnnic.cn/html/Dir/2006/02/14/3568.htm

For comparison purposes, refer to the earlier guideline published in 2002-2003 and currently in effect, in English
http://www.cnnic.cn/html/Dir/2003/11/27/1510.htm
http://www.cnnic.cn/html/Dir/2003/11/27/1513.htm

Quote from the older version:
"5. The expert group responsible for adjudicating the dispute has the right to affirm whether the complained registrant has malicious intentions in registering for or using the internet keyword. The complained registrant proves to have malicious intentions under any of the following circumstances:

-Registering or acquiring the keyword primarily for the purpose of selling, renting, or otherwise transferring the registration of the keyword for unjustifiable interest;
-Registering the keyword in order to prevent a third party from reflecting a name that the third party enjoys right or legitimate interest in a corresponding keyword, provided the registrant has engaged in a pattern of such conduct;
-Registering the keyword primarily for the purpose of damaging the reputation of the complainant, disputing the business of the complainant, or creating likelihood of confusion with the complainant so as to mislead the public.
-other circumstances.


6. The keyword registrant shall bear the burden of proving its right or legitimate interest to the keyword or the major part thereof. The Panel has the power, according to the evidence provided by both parties and all the facts involved in the dispute, to recognize whether the keyword registrant has the justified reason for registration or use of the keyword.
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I don't have enough experience to really compare this guideline vs the WIPO guideline vs older version. Main change is
that the newer version no longer defines "-Registering or acquiring the keyword primarily for the purpose of selling, renting, or otherwise transferring the registration of the keyword for unjustifiable interest" as malicious.


Also, the newer version contains following:
第十条 被投诉人在接到争议解决机构送达的投诉书之前具有下列情形之一的,表明其对该域名享有合法权益:
(一)被投诉人在提供商品或服务的过程中已善意地使用该域名或与该域名相对应的名称;
(二)被投诉人虽未获得商品商标或有关服务商标,但所持有的域名已经获得一定的知名度;
(三)被投诉人合理地使用或非商业性地合法使用该域名,不存在为获取商业利益而误导消费者的意图。


explains how the registrant (target of complaint) can show he/she has rights over the domain: has some reputable uses, without confusing consumers or nonmalicious usage.

So far all these changes are great and better protect domainers. One thing that's remains an obstacle though.

Officially .cn domains are only open to business and organizations not to individuals. I'm not sure whether and how this rule apply to foreigners. But it's seriously impeding the registration of .cn by Chinese individuals even though the rule is not strictly enforced.

This valentines day cnnic ran a campaign on registering <lover's name>.cn; but since only businesses can register it, domainers joke that the ad targets company executives for their "friends".


In future, cnnic may either decide to
1. take away individual owned .cn domains OR
2. officially allow individuals to own .cn domains

I expect they will do the right thing, but with China, one can never be sure.


[Work In Progress.]

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"All" websites in China needs a permit. My company .cn website was blocked because we didn't apply for the permit in time. Once the permit is obtained, it will be unblocked. The firewall only lets "registered websites" get through.
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Can anyone who lives in China see my simple website : www.websites.cn ?

I'm asking because someone recently told me they could see it (in China) and that they do allow some sites through if they approve the content. Also, I have seen type-ins coming from China.

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Well the first thing that is noticeable about the CNNIC UDRP is that it is in Chinese. WIPO states that proceedings will be in the language of the UDRP that the domain was purchased in unless it is agreed to proceed in another by both parties. Even the .jp registry that Edwin suggests JP-Domains http://www.jp-domains.com/index.php Has their UDRP in English for us so any proceeding would have to be in English. Great people over there at JP-Domains btw. I can't recommend their service enough.
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English translation (albeit for reference only) - http://www.cnnic.cn/en/index/0P/index.htm
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Re: Resources for developing .CN site for mainland market

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Re: Resources for developing .CN site for mainland market

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The minimal requirement is a "备案". If your website has bbs or chatroom you also need an "ICP" license. Both are free if you obtain through the above website. There are also service available to get them for a fee.

It seems if your hosting service is outside mainland china, you would not need these licenses, just risk being blocked.

Technically, license is required for all .cn and maybe .com websites hosted in China - i do not know if it applies to .cn websites hosted outside China.

They can block .cn and .com websites hosted within China that does not have that license - it will not be blocked in the sense of page not found, but a warning message will appear and ask you to contact some gov.cn email for assistance.

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