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sarcle
8th November 2005, 06:03 PM
MARINA DEL REY, CA - The Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) announced on Tuesday that the final proposed draft version 2.0 of the Guidelines for implementation of Internationalized Domain Names is now posted.

New's Link. (http://www.ag-ip-news.com/GetArticle.asp?Art_ID=2320&lang=en)

Hopefully we will be hearing from microsoft as well. I was for sure they would have announced something yesterday with their "biggest" release to date promotion. Bummer.

bramiozo
9th November 2005, 09:16 PM
http://lga.i-dns.biz/
http://www.i-dns.net/newsroom/news/GE050301-01.html.en

I have a lot of doubts about the viability of IDN.com/net/org :-\

Rubber Duck
9th November 2005, 09:56 PM
http://lga.i-dns.biz/
http://www.i-dns.net/newsroom/news/GE050301-01.html.en

I have a lot of doubts about the viability of IDN.com/net/org :-\


Well, I have CN in same Keywords as dot com. The dot com are getting traffic, the CN are getting virtually nothing same with dot jp.

Dave Wrixon

sarcle
9th November 2005, 10:25 PM
I would also like to note that this company appears to be a seperate entity from icann.

I have tried several links from the site and came up with unresolved pages. I downloaded the (plug-in) which by the way only runs on their browser. As all of their domains they list don't do anything.

I have seen them before....trying to think....I believe they were selling other extensions as well such as (.adult)
(.travel) stuff like that.

I will look up more info.

Adam.

bramiozo
9th November 2005, 11:01 PM
I any case, the reg fee is $125/2years for the chinese and japanese extensions, $35/year for the arabic extensions.

I don't know whether this is a big deal at the time but I know it will be :'(

gammascalper
10th November 2005, 02:01 AM
http://lga.i-dns.biz/
http://www.i-dns.net/newsroom/news/GE050301-01.html.en

I have a lot of doubts about the viability of IDN.com/net/org Undecided

i-dns is a for-profit company that created the plug-ins. They are naturally going to protect their turf.

As dwrixon mentioned, Chinese .com IDNs are already receiving hundreds of uniques a day. Amazingly, my high OVT .nets also received a decent amount of traffic over the weekend.

And these are probably mostly from Firefox users as FF resolves IDNs correctly. I wouldn't be surprised to see traffic increase 5 fold when IE7 debuts.

In any case, caveat emptor as I'm definitely 'talking my book' ;)

Olney
10th November 2005, 04:48 AM
I'm not sure about that company either. I'll buy .coms because I know it's a matter of MIcroSoft that the IDNs don't work in the browsers.

In Japanese the just use .net & .game in Japanese.
Not a big reason for us to rush at this...

Rubber Duck
10th November 2005, 08:10 AM
I-DNS has been going for some years, they are based in Singapore. There main avenue it China. They were basically trying to Usurp the dot com IDN thing in China. They have developed a software package that not only enables the second level to be displayed in local characters but also the top level. The Chinese have internally modified the DNS system so such domains will resolve.

China has been a logger heads with ICANN and looked liked going it alone a one point, I think they have have gone along with I-DNS because of slow progress with Microsoft and ICANN. ICANN seem to be in the process of authorising Local Character ccTLDs in advance of getting the gTLD top level sorted out. This will enable China to Internationally use 中国. 公司 which is similar to dot and 网络 have been issued with .com.cn and .net.cn as far as I can tell, but effectively you have been able to use them as though they are first level. I think this will go by the board and they will effectively revert to second level domains. China now seems to be back on board and going much in the same direction as everyone else.

They are obviously trying to spread this thing wider, but my guess is that they are actually going more mainstream and are now looking to licence the software to Microsoft so that Internet Explorer and Outlook will resolve First Levels gTLDs. There has been a lot of work and discussion on this at ICANN and it would seem that the desired solution is not a proliferation of different registries, but to get multi-channel translation done within the browser. None of the domains being sold are actually supported by the DNS and apart from a counterpart to the ccTLDs are never likely to be. It is all basically being done at browser pluggin level.

Best Regards
Dave Wrixon

bramiozo
10th November 2005, 10:17 AM
Thanks for your insight Dave, I already saw that names like "technology", "science" and "news" were available. I think that the 'odd' extension is a major barrier in using IDN.

Rubber Duck
10th November 2005, 10:41 AM
Thanks for your insight Dave, I already saw that names like "technology", "science" and "news" were available. I think that the 'odd' extension is a major barrier in using IDN.


Well it is and it isn't. If it is just another way of expressing an established Register like dot CN or dot JP, I think it is OK! With dot CN you get both versions for the same fee.

If infact you are buying into .com.cn or net.cn, it would seem not to be such a good bet. The first of these is in decline and the second never really got going!

Best Regards
Dave Wrixon