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bwhhisc
14th October 2007, 03:27 PM
With a big week behind us with IDNs making major worldwide press and ICANN testing is in progress,
what is the feeling about the latest chatter on the various forums and blogs regarding IDN rollout?
I put up the two posts at DNF from the Washington Post and Wall Street Journal and hardly a peep.

burnsinternet
14th October 2007, 03:43 PM
I posted it at one forum and helped add a new member here. Many people seem interested, but few have the foreign language skills or the guts to go for it.

I think that most domainers just don't know what to think.

I saw it posted at IDNclub.com and idnf.ru - any action there?

Rubber Duck
14th October 2007, 03:59 PM
Well, it might be worth mentioning that some of us that are doing tolerably well don't have the "necessary" foreign language skills either.

The Duck's single biggest innovation was the discovery of Free Online Translation Services.

domainguru
14th October 2007, 04:20 PM
With a big week behind us with IDNs making major worldwide press and ICANN testing is in progress,
what is the feeling about the latest chatter on the various forums and blogs regarding IDN rollout?
I put up the two posts at DNF from the Washington Post and Wall Street Journal and hardly a peep.

Its news but its not "sexy enough" if you know what I mean. If it were news that an IDN had sold for a million dollars then sure, it would grab peoples' attention, but it isn't, its just news of an IDN testbed.

Rubber Duck
14th October 2007, 04:25 PM
Its news but its not "sexy enough" if you know what I mean. If it were news that an IDN had sold for a million dollars then sure, it would grab peoples' attention, but it isn't, its just news of an IDN testbed.

Bottom line is that 95% of domainers want to be Rick Schwartz and they believe if they do as he tells them that will happen. The usual business rational of studying the market for opportunities and threats somehow just goes out of the window. It is difficult to differentiate Traffics from one of the TV channel mega healing sessions you get from the Southern Baptist Churches.

goidn
14th October 2007, 04:30 PM
I noticed that on many foreign DN forums the IDN topic is either taboo or just simply ignored.

Just for hell of it i put some top-notch cyrillic generics for 'appraisal' on the russian forum. First, they got angry & pissed. After that they appraised' them as 'reg fee' or 'negative'.

There was a talk of banning people for displaying 'cyrillics'.

Also, their moderator, who's a member here, removed those postings, saying they' re ' inapropriate'.

domainguru
14th October 2007, 04:36 PM
I noticed that on many foreign DN forums the IDN topic is either taboo or just simply ignored.

Just for hell of it i put some top-notch cyrillic generics for 'appraisal' on the russian forum. First, they got angry & pissed. After that they appraised' them as 'reg fee' or 'negative'.

There was a talk of banning people for displaying 'cyrillics'.

Also, their moderator, who's a member here, removed those postings, saying they' re ' inapropriate'.

Don't sweat it. Ignorance by the domain masses has allowed us to create the bulging quality portfolios we have today. It will just take one big sale to start the landslide. I predict this will only happen once the whole IDN.IDN situation becomes clearer. Investors hate uncertainty. So hopefully 2008...

Rubber Duck
14th October 2007, 04:38 PM
So if IDN have no future, why do all these people feel so angered and embittered when you talk about them? Surely they should just feel pity or is there perhaps a little honesty lacking here somewhere. Perhaps the Russians also feel that that the success of their ASCII are going to be extrapolated through India, China and Japan? Or perhaps they feel their little empire is about to implode around them?

I noticed that on many foreign DN forums the IDN topic is either taboo or just simply ignored.

Just for hell of it i put some top-notch cyrillic generics for 'appraisal' on the russian forum. First, they got angry & pissed. After that they appraised' them as 'reg fee' or 'negative'.

There was a talk of banning people for displaying 'cyrillics'.

Also, their moderator, who's a member here, removed those postings, saying they' re ' inapropriate'.

mulligan
14th October 2007, 04:54 PM
I noticed that on many foreign DN forums the IDN topic is either taboo or just simply ignored.

Just for hell of it i put some top-notch cyrillic generics for 'appraisal' on the russian forum. First, they got angry & pissed. After that they appraised' them as 'reg fee' or 'negative'.

There was a talk of banning people for displaying 'cyrillics'.

Also, their moderator, who's a member here, removed those postings, saying they' re ' inapropriate'.

Who removed them?

goidn
14th October 2007, 05:01 PM
Not so fast.

The other day I wrote about our court experience with a TM-related domain.
It was written in totally neutral tone. Just a matter of fact.
And yet i was attacked right here for 'moral degradation' & 'poor ethics', etc.

bwhhisc
14th October 2007, 05:03 PM
I noticed that on many foreign DN forums the IDN topic is either taboo or just simply ignored. Just for hell of it i put some top-notch cyrillic generics for 'appraisal' on the russian forum. First, they got angry & pissed. After that they appraised' them as 'reg fee' or 'negative'. There was a talk of banning people for displaying 'cyrillics'. Also, their moderator, who's a member here, removed those postings, saying they' re ' inapropriate'.
Russian IDNs are on the move and getting the best traffic "currently" in my portfolio.
The majority are still poking along, but some are really starting to move.

This Russian IDN has already made $20.58 in the last 13 days (Oct 1-13).
Thats $ 576.13 on an annual basis and traffic is still nowhere near developed.
October month to date:
дноклассники(dot)com US $20.58; 1842 visits; 660 clicks; 35.83% click thru; US$ 0.03 ppc (was .12 in months past)

mulligan
14th October 2007, 05:09 PM
Not so fast.

The other day I wrote about our court experience with a TM-related domain.
It was written in totally neutral tone. Just a matter of fact.
And yet i was attacked right here for 'moral degradation' & 'poor ethics', etc.
Doesn't sound very 'matter of fact' to me

A lot of US & European TMs are NOT registered in Asia.
They are fair game. Nobody mentioned your ethics .. or lack of, same goes for your morals .. or lack of

Simple enough question ... Who removed your posts?
Maybe you could inform us of the forum this happened at as well so we are aware of it?

jacksonm
14th October 2007, 05:29 PM
Also, their moderator, who's a member here, removed those postings, saying they' re ' inapropriate'.

Which member of this site runs russian language domain forums and told you that IDN appraisal threads are innappropriate?

There simply aren't that many russians on this forum, so any of us can probably find out who it is with just a bit of searching this site.

Now, why don't you just paste the links to your appraisal threads on the russian forum? Playing these kind of games without going the last step and divulging the information certainly won't help you to gain any acceptance here.

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Rubber Duck
14th October 2007, 05:33 PM
I can concur with that, but there is absolutely on interest in the retail market. I think the Russian Portfolio will start to support the rest very soon, with a bit of help from Japan.

Russian IDNs are on the move and getting the best traffic "currently" in my portfolio.
The majority are still poking along, but some are really starting to move.

This Russian IDN has already made $20.58 in the last 13 days (Oct 1-13).
Thats $ 576.13 on an annual basis and traffic is still nowhere near developed.
October month to date:
дноклассники(dot)com US $20.58; 1842 visits; 660 clicks; 35.83% click thru; US$ 0.03 ppc (was .12 in months past)

thegenius1
14th October 2007, 05:34 PM
I posted it at one forum and helped add a new member here. Many people seem interested, but few have the foreign language skills or the guts to go for it.




Tell them to check out IDNconsulting.com then :)

goidn
14th October 2007, 05:39 PM
I don't want to belong to any club that will accept me as a member.

Groucho Marx

jacksonm
14th October 2007, 05:42 PM
I don't want to belong to any club that will accept me as a member.

Groucho Marx


Anybody else smelling tgtbtu2 ?

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burnsinternet
14th October 2007, 05:43 PM
Anybody else smelling tgtbtu2 ?
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Ah, memories....

goidn
14th October 2007, 05:48 PM
OK,
his name is Pavlik Morozov, and here's the links:

http://www.britannica.com/eb/article-9053795/Pavlik-Morozov

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pavlik_Morozov

burnsinternet
14th October 2007, 05:55 PM
How do you write "WTF?" in Russian?

mulligan
14th October 2007, 06:37 PM
Anybody else smelling tgtbtu2 ?

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No .. I do however smell a SciFi

SciFi details and whois

http://www.idnforums.com/forums/66411-post1.html

Whois:
http://www.whois-search.com/whois/GoogleWords.com
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http://www.idnforums.com/forums/65468-post4.html

Whois:
http://www.whois-search.com/whois/xn--dck9c6ax4i.com
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goidn details and whois:

http://www.idnforums.com/forums/87269-post1.html

Whois:
http://www.whois-search.com/whois/xn--6dbdb4a2b.com
http://www.whois-search.com/whois/xn--jlqs87c6hf83a.net
http://www.whois-search.com/whois/xn--b1add1b8bzc.net
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

http://www.idnforums.com/forums/83612-post1.html

Whois:
http://www.whois-search.com/whois/xn--6dbdb4a2b.com
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Anybody see a connection here?

burnsinternet
14th October 2007, 06:41 PM
This has been a walk down memory lane, hasn't it?

jose
14th October 2007, 07:04 PM
Well, you can use the link on my signature to track wassup on those forums.

jacksonm
14th October 2007, 07:25 PM
Anybody see a connection here?

Good work. Thanks.

Didn't he get banned before for pushing TMs?

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goidn
14th October 2007, 09:30 PM
A friend of mine who's teaching psychology suggested i mention 'Pavlik Morozov'.
He predicted some very interesting responses.

jacksonm
14th October 2007, 09:43 PM
A friend of mine who's teaching psychology suggested i mention 'Pavlik Morozov'.
He predicted some very interesting responses.


You have to assume that people would actually be arsed to go and read about some dead russian.

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mulligan
14th October 2007, 09:45 PM
A friend of mine who's teaching psychology suggested i mention 'Pavlik Morozov'.
He predicted some very interesting responses.

So, if you can stop talking shit for a while do you mind explaining my previous post?

burnsinternet
14th October 2007, 09:48 PM
A friend of mine who's teaching psychology suggested i mention 'Pavlik Morozov'.
He predicted some very interesting responses.

Like, "What does that have to do with IDN discussions on other forums and blogs?"

If you were trying to make a point, just state your point.

By the way, how did Blast's post disappear?

Anyway, to restate the question for all here, "So...what's the chatter re: IDNs on other forums and blogs lately?"

Fka200
14th October 2007, 10:01 PM
I just do a quick search for "IDN" on other forums to help out those who still don't know what they are. I made a post @ DP and my PM box exploded with PMs from people who can't seem to grasp what the hell IDNs are.

http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=494753&highlight=idn

goidn
14th October 2007, 10:03 PM
'You have to assume that people would actually be arsed to go and read about some dead russian.'


According to my shrink friend 'Pavlik Morozov' is a very potent symbol eliciting powerful emotions. You can tell whether the person is a 'liberal' or a 'bolshevik' depending on his/her responses.
And by the way, JC & Mohammed are dead too. And yet folks read about'em.

burnsinternet
14th October 2007, 10:53 PM
How very interesting.

So, why didn't you just say that the Mod was named Jesus or Mohammed?

Same reaction:

1. This is just silly.
2. Why has this thread transformed so?
3. What is your point?

You are starting to sound a little strange, dude.

goidn
14th October 2007, 11:12 PM
The point was that I posted some of my IDNs on a bunch of DN forums only to find out that the 'natives' were extremely upset about it.

But I wouldn't say that their reactions are totally out of whack.
Look what happened here!

There are extremists on both sides.

And they all want you dead!

I offer an olive branch: Let's coexist in peace.

mulligan
14th October 2007, 11:16 PM
And they all want you dead!

Not dead, just gone ... away ... far away
http://www.idnforums.com/forums/13857-banned-but-still-here-under-a-different-id.html