Whats the Longest you have a IDN renewed for ?

[thegenius1]

Just going through the whois i find some pretty interesting stuff.

I think 2012 is the furthest i seen so far .

I personally have a few reged till 2010

[touchring]

I've seen a lot of .cn renewed to 2015. For some reasons, the chinese corps like to renew many years at a go.

[IDNer]

Just going through the whois i find some pretty interesting stuff.

I think 2012 is the furthest i seen so far .

I personally have a few reged till 2010


3 of my IDNs reged till 2017

[thegenius1]

3 of my IDNs reged till 2017

WoW , care to share them ?

[IDNCowboy]

I've seen a lot of .cn renewed to 2015. For some reasons, the chinese corps like to renew many years at a go.
isn't the max 5 years for .cn

[touchring]

isn't the max 5 years for .cn


No. I checked the .net before i decided to renew the .com!

Domain Name 童装.网络
童装.网络.cn
童裝.网络
童裝.网络.cn
Domain Status ok
Registrant Name xxxxxxx
Registar xxxxxxxxxxx公司
Administrative Email xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Name Server ns1.dns-china.cn
Name Server2 ns2.dns-china.cn
Creation Date 2006-07-07 12:16
Expiration Date 2016-07-07 12:16


I've seen many others. Can't recall - bad memory. I'm sure IDNer or Chinastar can recall a few themselves. :o


btw, myself i've not renewed any of my names for more than 1 year. :)

[alpha]

3 months

ask me again after Chri$tma$

[markits]

矿.cc (xn--b8y.cc) 2016
矿.cn (xn--b8y.net) 2011

[thegenius1]

3 months



No way possible


btw, myself i've not renewed any of my names for more than 1 year. :)

Its hard to do it if you are still actively reggn names. But some names need to be secured for atleast 2 years IMO

[IDNCowboy]

No. I checked the .net before i decided to renew the .com!

Domain Name 童装.网络
童装.网络.cn
童裝.网络
童裝.网络.cn
Domain Status ok
Registrant Name xxxxxxx
Registar xxxxxxxxxxx公司
Administrative Email xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Name Server ns1.dns-china.cn
Name Server2 ns2.dns-china.cn
Creation Date 2006-07-07 12:16
Expiration Date 2016-07-07 12:16


I've seen many others. Can't recall - bad memory. I'm sure IDNer or Chinastar can recall a few themselves. :o


btw, myself i've not renewed any of my names for more than 1 year. :)
i mean .cn not.com.cn

[touchring]

i mean .cn not.com.cn


This is not .com.cn. it's .gongsi.cn, a subdomain of idn.cn. It's treated as the same as .cn, unless i'm mistakened. :)

[jacksonm]

This is not .com.cn. it's .gongsi.cn, a subdomain of idn.cn. It's treated as the same as .cn, unless i'm mistakened. :)


idn.gongsi.cn is not equal to idn.cn

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[Rubber Duck]

The only possible reason anyone could have for registering more than two years out is rapidly advancing senile dementia.

[thegenius1]

The only possible reason anyone could have for registering more than two years out is rapidly advancing senile dementia.

Negative , If you have the money why not ? Especially with the recent price increase.

There are SEO advantages for registering a name for more years and other advantages i dont care to point out. IDN consulting.com charges x,xxx per half hour to explain these things.

[Rubber Duck]

Negative , If you have the money why not ? Especially with the recent price increase.

There are SEO advantages for registering a name for more years and other advantages i dont care to point out. IDN consulting.com charges x,xxx per half hour to explain these things.

IDNConsulting is full of shit!

[thegenius1]

IDNConsulting is full of shit!

Friday night drinks :)


It is so everybody just buy your domains from duck so he will be happy , Free tip of the day.

[Rubber Duck]

I make more sense drunk than you do sober!

[thegenius1]

I make more sense drunk than you do sober!

LOL i like how you avoided the point that i made

Let me repost it without getting a full of shit response

Negative , If you have the money why not ? Especially with the recent price increase.

[Rubber Duck]

Look, it wouldn't be worth the interest charges on borrowed money to pay in advance. If you cannot think of better ways of investing your own money than that, then your consultancy services are not worth 50 cents an hour let alone $x,xxx.

[thegenius1]

Look, it wouldn't be worth the interest charges on borrowed money to pay in advance. If you cannot think of better ways of investing your own money than that, then your consultancy services are not worth 50 cents an hour let alone $x,xxx.

who says the money is borrowed ?

[Rubber Duck]

You have made so many claims in the past, that just about whatever you post is treated with absolute ridicule.

Have you ever consider that for most of us that renewals fees are actually less than they were this time last year, and next year they will be even cheaper still?

[thegenius1]

You have made so many claims in the past, that just about whatever you post is treated with absolute ridicule.

Have you ever consider that for most of us that renewals fees are actually less than they were this time last year, and next year they will be even cheaper still?

Have you considered that the people that can afford it did mass registration to save 50 cents per name. And if memory serves me correct drew was blasting you for acting as if you didn't care.

I have better things to do on my Friday evening than argue with you , We all know if its not Ducks Way its No Way !

[Rubber Duck]

If you observed the markets here, you would see that most of the late comers are ploughing into a whole range of dubious extension that are 2 to 5 times the cost of dot coms. Why do you think that might be?

[thegenius1]

who cares what they do

Does rick have dementia for renewing his porno.com for 10 years ?

Domain Name: PORNO.COM
Registrar: MONIKER ONLINE SERVICES, INC.
Whois Server: whois.moniker.com
Referral URL: http://www.moniker.com/whois.html
Name Server: SK.S2.NS1.NS62.KOLMIC.COM
Name Server: SK.S2.NS2.NS62.KOLMIC.COM
Status: clientTransferProhibited
Status: clientUpdateProhibited
Status: clientDeleteProhibited
Updated Date: 10-aug-2007
Creation Date: 29-mar-1999
Expiration Date: 29-mar-2017


Is IDNer Crazy Because he has 3 IDNs he truly believes in and wants to hold them for 10 years ?

3 of my IDNs reged till 2017

[Rubber Duck]

The gap between buyer and seller expectations is greater than ever and almost impossible to bridge, but nevertheless the dross that is being sold off here by those that cannot make the renewals is generally far higher than that which is being new regged.

The bottom line is that most US speculators are not going to get this until it is far too late, just as most didn't get ASCII dot com when it could have done them some real good. Most of them came in late and registered total rubbish. Most of them do not understand the difference between investment and speculation. If I could produce the traffic figures most of them are looking for, why would I even consider selling?

[jacksonm]

Let them do what they do , it only pushes up the value of what we hold. You just rather them spend there money initially with you . But thats not what everybody is going to do , some rather try their hand at fresh registering. But hey at the end of the day who are the winners.


As long as there is an infinite supply of names and extensions, you will have idiots registering stuff like LoveFrosty.com (and that's one of the better ones).

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[Rubber Duck]

Don't get me on Rick. He doesn't even appreciate that most of the traffic on this domain comes from abroad! Those that he treats as the great unwashed.

http://www.google.com/trends?q=porno

who cares what they do

Does rick have dementia for renewing his porno.com for 10 years ?

Domain Name: PORNO.COM
Registrar: MONIKER ONLINE SERVICES, INC.
Whois Server: whois.moniker.com
Referral URL: http://www.moniker.com/whois.html
Name Server: SK.S2.NS1.NS62.KOLMIC.COM
Name Server: SK.S2.NS2.NS62.KOLMIC.COM
Status: clientTransferProhibited
Status: clientUpdateProhibited
Status: clientDeleteProhibited
Updated Date: 10-aug-2007
Creation Date: 29-mar-1999
Expiration Date: 29-mar-2017


Is IDNer Crazy Because he has 3 IDNs he truly believes in and wants to hold them for 10 years ?

[thegenius1]

Don't get me on Rick. He doesn't even appreciate that most of the traffic on this domain comes from abroad! Those that he treats as the great unwashed.

http://www.google.com/trends?q=porno

Wherever the traffic originates from , is he a idiot for saying this is bread and butter im willing to drop 60 bucks on it to hold it for 10 years when it makes me 6 figs a year ? People pay way more than that for a stock that may only bring them a few bucks in return.

[Rubber Duck]

I think we have seen from Rick's latest acquisitions that he really doesn't have anything better to do with his cash.

I would have expected better of the rest of you.

[thegenius1]

I think we have seen from Rick's latest acquisitions that he really doesn't have anything better to do with his cash.

I would have expected better of the rest of you.

so is rick a fool for renewing porno.com for 10 years ?

If im understanding you correctly he should invest that 60 some odd dollars somewhere else that is not guaranteeing him 6 figs a year ?

IMO that dam domain should be regged for 100 years. If people are willing to drop millions to acquire it ,why wouldn't you be willing to drop 600 buck to renew it for a lifetime.

[Rubber Duck]

Rick's cash-flow situation is not representative of those here, and this domain is not representative of his portfolio. Yes, I am sure if I owned this particular domain I would probably have it on maximum renewal. Still doesn't give you the argument. Taking renewals of IDN past the time when they will either have succeeded or failed is pointless.

so is rick a fool for renewing porno.com for 10 years ?

If im understanding you correctly he should put that 60 some odd dollars somewhere else that is not guaranteeing him 6 figs a year ?

IMO that dam domain should be regged for 100 years. If people are willing to drop millions to acquire it ,why wouldn't you be willing to drop 600 buck to renew it for a lifetime.

[thegenius1]

Rick's cash-flow situation is not representative of those here, and this domain is not representative of his portfolio. Yes, I am sure if I owned this particular domain I would probably have it on maximum renewal. Still doesn't give you the argument. Taking renewals of IDN past the time when they will either have succeeded or failed is pointless.

Well some people have been renewing for 7 + years already , so they should have dropped after 2 years huh ?

[Rubber Duck]

Well some people have been renewing for 7 + years already , so they should have dropped after 2 years huh ?

No, I didn't say that. But most of them will have taken things as they come. Take TDC. Everyone here thought they were dropping their whole portfolio because they left everything to the last minute. Beside the quality of the original registrations that have been held for 7 years is generally exceptional.

[thegenius1]

No, I didn't say that. But most of them will have taken things as they come. Take TDC. Everyone here thought they were dropping their whole portfolio because they left everything to the last minute. Beside the quality of the original registrations that have been held for 7 years is generally exceptional.

Last minute is not always the smartest route

[Rubber Duck]

Last minute is not always the smartest route

Maybe not, but if I had to chose between the TDC business model and just about anyone else here, it wouldn't take much figuring out!

[thegenius1]

Maybe not, but if I had to chose between the TDC business model and just about anyone else here, it wouldn't take much figuring out!

Duck if you sold some IDN's for lets say xxx,xxx and decided well i mightes well just go ahead and renew these for 3 years since the price is going up is that a bad move.

Even F.S has a post on his blog on how to make a easy X % , by simply renewing your domains because the price is going up.

[mulligan]

Makes a difference on whether you're earning n USD than say GBP

[Rubber Duck]

That just indicates that long tail investors are working on very slim margins. Some of my idn speculation have already produced ROI in excess of xxx,xxx%. Screwing your cash-flow makes no sense for a few percentage points in a depreciating currency. If you have that much spare cash, and making so much money from your IDN as you would have us believe, why are you not in the secondary market scooping up good IDN for a pittance?

Duck if you sold some IDN's for lets say xxx,xxx and decided well i mightes well just go ahead and renew these for 3 years since the price is going up is that a bad move.

Even F.S has a post on his blog on how to make a easy X % , by simply renewing your domains because the price is going up.

[thegenius1]

If you have that much spare cash, and making so much money from your IDN as you would have us believe, why are you not in the secondary market scooping up good IDN for a pittance?

Back to one of my points , if you aren't buying in the secondary market from duck you are doing it wrong.

If you choose to renew the gold you already have you are doing it wrong :rolleyes: .

But on that note You dont know what i buy , drop catch , fresh reg , acquire quietly ect. , you like to assume.

[Rubber Duck]

OK, that does it. Any more of this crap and I will post all the crap you have sent to my PM box as well. Frankly, your action over the years have done nothing other than damage the status of IDN.

[thegenius1]

OK, that does it. Any more of this crap and I will post all the crap you have sent to my PM box as well. Frankly, your action over the years have done nothing other than damage the status of IDN.

Bottom line this is a dumb back in forth argument , you think people that renew for more then 2 years should place their money other places. I say if you can afford it go for more years so you can save on renewals fees. Thats is all depending on the size of your portfolio ect. Nothing really to get all in a up roar about , untill you decide to take some cheap shots. But im done i have better things to do with my time , like develop my names and make money.

Damage the status of IDN they seem to point that finger to you .

I have a little battle @ N.P , and you take on Rick every chance you get and im the bad guy.

[Rubber Duck]

There we go. Do I need to post more of this nonsense?

You are missing my point. If i am running a consulting service and a company comes to me to ask my advice. And i say well i know people that might have the name or names you are looking for let me contact them and see what we can do. Im saying i was willing to bring you business but you are bashing my business for no reason in a drunken rage. Not Cool

Did I ever offer to broker names? I don't think so?

Cant seem to understand why you would call my consulting service a peice of shit , when i had you on the top of my list to try to broker names when folks came to inquire about IDN's . Not Cool man

[thegenius1]

There we go. Do I need to post more of this nonsense?

you should post them in the order they came in

the one at the bottom goes on the top.

And when has it been cool to post PM's ? Not that i care but seems pretty petty

[Rubber Duck]

I am not going to bore the members with all of it. The crux was are you full of shit?

This seems to answer the question as to whether it is reasonable to make statements about charging $x,xxx.


First of all , i dont know if its a language barrier issue. But i have not stated i have charged people this price yet for consulting. Im simply promoting my business saying this is what i charge if you want to know more about this topic !

[thegenius1]

First of all , i dont know if its a language barrier issue. But i have not stated i have charged people this price yet for consulting. Im simply promoting my business saying this is what i charge if you want to know more about this topic !
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