Domain blocked by advertiser

[jose]

Parked @ ND. What does this means now?!

http://www.sexevidéos.com/

[IDNCowboy]

Parked @ ND. What does this means now?!

http://www.sexevidéos.com/
google doesnt allow adult domains

[IDNer]

I've the same experience before -

http://www.idnforums.com/forums/10038-%5Bdomain-blocked-by-advertiser%5D.html

[jose]

I don't get this.

ND only works with Google?

NO -> If not, they should manage this properly and use an adult compatible network on adult domains.

YES -> If yes, why does ND has ADULT templates available in the first place? To mock our faces?

[Fka200]

I don't think it was only against adult domains.

[sarcle]

I've had the same happenings some of my domains as well; both idn and ascii.

Namedrive needs to get their shit together. If they offer adult templates then they need to get an adult ppc provider; there are plenty.

You aren't alone Jose.

Right now Namedrive is on my shit list. Funny thing is, they are only blocking adult domains they can "read." (i.e. sex, porn, et cetera.) All of my other adults in languages other than latin are fine.

[touchring]

This is already being discussed here -> http://www.idnforums.com/forums/15415-anyone-get-one-of-these-emails-before-2.html

Explanation given by Ed - http://www.idnforums.com/forums/97686-post39.html

[jose]

sorry

[touchring]

Maybe the sales and auction posts should be excluded from the bottom Recent Threads. There's a lot of bumping these days.

[yanni]

Or maybe restrict to one sale/auction per day per person.
Or, start charging for each sales post :)

[touchring]

Or maybe restrict to one sale/auction per day per person.
Or, start charging for each sales post :)


There's already a section for sales and auction above. The bottom section may exclude sales and auctions. Displaying everything on the homepage with caching will help reduce the load on mysql also. This way we don't need to keep searching.

[jacksonm]

Right now Namedrive is on my shit list. Funny thing is, they are only blocking adult domains they can "read." (i.e. sex, porn, et cetera.) All of my other adults in languages other than latin are fine.

They blocked "directory service" in Korean. WTF?

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[touchring]

They blocked "directory service" in Korean. WTF?

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Does adsense still work after being blocked? Adsense is important, the name will be trashed if it gets blacklised by adsense.

I only got an adult name blocked, so i can't check. Thks.

[jacksonm]

Does adsense still work after being blocked? Adsense is important, the name will be trashed if it gets blacklised by adsense.

I only got an adult name blocked, so i can't check. Thks.


Well, I could try it on a minisite if I only knew how to get some korean text for it.

Ghandi's law is starting to come true:

First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.


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[touchring]

Well, I could try it on a minisite if I only knew how to get some korean text for it.

Ghandi's law is starting to come true:

First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.


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I don't play with Google - they are the gods, they control SERP and control the ads. They determine whether a domain lives or die.

There's no transparency in the way they do things, once you suspect something, change course immediately!

Their method is to experiment with the system first - try out on a few, ban temporarily, revise the algo, revise again and again, until they are satisfied, it will roll out!

[Asiaplay]

Aside from the adult domain element for the domain raised - I can see more of a kick-back coming for parked domains being included in paid click programs, as time goes on.

I have a friend on the other side of the fence, who has laid complaints with Google and Yahoo over fake or useless clicks he paid for.

His reason was that when he checked out the source of links to his site, he found 30% of the clicks he was paying quite highly for, were coming from parked sites.
So he looked at the around USD 12K he had spent and said - ummm... basically 30% or 4K of cost came from sites which were not even relevant to our products (and logically as the one who had paid for advertising told them, why should I be paying for clicks from non-keyword rich, irrelevant undeveloped parked sites!!!).

He is presently in discussion for a refund for those clicks with both of them (if he gets a refund will be interesting to see - but puts pressure on those offering advertising paid per click if people complain all the time).

Point is guys (not trying to open a big discussion on who is right) - but it seems more and more guys paying for the advertising are starting to track back and complain when they come from parked sites.

So parked sites will as I see it, be under more pressure to not be included for advertising clicks (developed minisites will become the acceptable level very fast as I see it and maybe not long after this even, minisites will be under pressure at some point in favour of developed sites).

Just some comments, as I think it is things like this, which will drive changes in which sites are accepted or not.

Cheers - Asiaplay

[touchring]

This argument against parking is partly crap, generic type-in converts much better than developed sites. I advertise on adword for my business, i reduced my content PPC to 1 or 2 cents because of crap traffic from developed sites.

If i sell sports cars, i rather have traffic come from someone that types "sportscars.com" than all those gabbage blogs and news sites.

[thegenius1]

Right now Namedrive is on my shit list. Funny thing is, they are only blocking adult domains they can "read." (i.e. sex, porn, et cetera.) All of my other adults in languages other than latin are fine.

I suggest you delete this , pm me and i delete the quote.

[Asiaplay]

Touchring - as I said - I really am not trying to start discussion on value or not... but more highlighting the effect of people complaining to advertising paid click providers on this issue ;)

Namely, suggesting site development might be what is required if this trend continues.

Cheers - Asiaplay

[Rubber Duck]

This is rubbish. Parked traffic is the Holy Grail and Google knows it.

I think the problem is due to low conversion of domain, which is substantially Google problem, as we wait patiently for them to secure a reasonable foothold in local advertising markets.

Parked traffic conversion is Google's great strength. Others will catch on, and Google is playing a dangerous game.
:mad:

Aside from the adult domain element for the domain raised - I can see more of a kick-back coming for parked domains being included in paid click programs, as time goes on.

I have a friend on the other side of the fence, who has laid complaints with Google and Yahoo over fake or useless clicks he paid for.

His reason was that when he checked out the source of links to his site, he found 30% of the clicks he was paying quite highly for, were coming from parked sites.
So he looked at the around USD 12K he had spent and said - ummm... basically 30% or 4K of cost came from sites which were not even relevant to our products (and logically as the one who had paid for advertising told them, why should I be paying for clicks from non-keyword rich, irrelevant undeveloped parked sites!!!).

He is presently in discussion for a refund for those clicks with both of them (if he gets a refund will be interesting to see - but puts pressure on those offering advertising paid per click if people complain all the time).

Point is guys (not trying to open a big discussion on who is right) - but it seems more and more guys paying for the advertising are starting to track back and complain when they come from parked sites.

So parked sites will as I see it, be under more pressure to not be included for advertising clicks (developed minisites will become the acceptable level very fast as I see it and maybe not long after this even, minisites will be under pressure at some point in favour of developed sites).

Just some comments, as I think it is things like this, which will drive changes in which sites are accepted or not.

Cheers - Asiaplay

[jacksonm]

This is rubbish. Parked traffic is the Holy Grail and Google knows it.

I think the problem is due to low conversion of domain, which is substantially Google problem, as we wait patiently for them to secure a reasonable foothold in local advertising markets.

Parked traffic conversion is Google's great strength. Others will catch on, and Google is playing a dangerous game.
:mad:


Well, as long as their Adwords team doesn't support localization (IDN Display URLs), then they will not gain a foothold in local advertising markets.

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[Asiaplay]

Rubberduck - this was a complaint on their core market (USA based advertising).
Interestingly enough as well - his biggest complaint was with Yahoo (but also with google)

I would suspect that sites for IDNs are more useful (on the whole - as most are real keywords) than a lot of the ascii ones which he was paying for... and yes, if a large percentage of people complain - this is an issue and google and others will need to ensure their paid per click, is as sound as their search rankings are (or advertisers will go where they feel they are getting their monies worth).

How far this complaining goes (only goggle and others know) - but my point, as I said is... developing content which matches what people search for will safeguard against this problem and why a domain gets rejected.

Only sharing so people know the pressure which might be driving google and others to change their stance and think about this (to develop or not, is now our choice), before one day we find all parked sites being rejected.

Cheers - Asiaplay

[Rubber Duck]

There is an argument for not allowing mismatching of Keywords with Domain Names. Sedo has an approval process to get around that problem. It might be a problem with IDN at a later date, but levels of awareness are like not even a blip on the Radar screen, let alone being annoyed at skewed keywords. If you have good keywords, I would recommend that you use them, because although they might not be the highest paying, you will get higher CTR and return traffic from providing a useful resource. This will result in earnings growth but may lead to accusations of abuse because the same IP addresses will keep cropping up. Parking Sites can be very useful resources, particularly to the less illuminated. This is one of the reasons that the Type-In Traffic phenomenon is so enduring. Google still have a lot to learn!

Rubberduck - this was a complaint on their core market (USA based advertising).
Interestingly enough as well - his biggest complaint was with Yahoo (but also with google)

I would suspect that sites for IDNs are more useful (on the whole - as most are real keywords) than a lot of the ascii ones which he was paying for... and yes, if a large percentage of people complain - this is an issue and google and others will need to ensure their paid per click, is as sound as their search rankings are (or advertisers will go where they feel they are getting their monies worth).

How far this complaining goes (only goggle and others know) - but my point, as I said is... developing content which matches what people search for will safeguard against this problem and why a domain gets rejected.

Only sharing so people know the pressure which might be driving google and others to change their stance and think about this (to develop or not, is now our choice), before one day we find all parked sites being rejected.

Cheers - Asiaplay

[jacksonm]

Ed @ namedrive has also gotten back to me personally with the response that they are working on this issue.

I guess he's pretty swamped with complaints about this right now...

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[touchring]

Touchring - as I said - I really am not trying to start discussion on value or not... but more highlighting the effect of people complaining to advertising paid click providers on this issue ;)

Namely, suggesting site development might be what is required if this trend continues.

Cheers - Asiaplay


Yup, i know, just sharing my own thoughts as an advertiser. People like their ads to be placed on a nice looking site. That's the thing.

[Drewbert]

I had 3 blocked yesterday and another 3 today. And the domains blocked don't appear to be nasty ones.

[touchring]

i got another blocked, this time a generic, on education! i'll try and see if adsense works.

[khurtsiya]

Do You guys get an confirmation email about blocking? Or just checkin each domain to see which is blocked?

[touchring]

Do You guys get an confirmation email about blocking? Or just checkin each domain to see which is blocked?


it's under the block category. most of the time, there is no email!

[khurtsiya]

Hmm... I see it now. It is on the bottom. And I have one blocked 05 Sep 2007.

But I must say that it is TM one. So it was question of time...

[touchring]

Hmm... I see it now. It is on the bottom. And I have one blocked 05 Sep 2007.

But I must say that it is TM one. So it was question of time...


Wat language is it? i'm prioritizing my moving of names out.

[alex]

Are they starting an IDN purge? I had two Japanese domains blocked the other day for the first time in two years, then another two today. Out of the four, two were understandable, but the other two were completely generic, everyday terms (one travel term and one tech term). If they keep chipping away names at this rate, I will not be a happy camper. Has anyone been able to get a more detailed response from ND, such as which category the block falls into?

[touchring]

I just checked, Adsense doesn't seem to be banned (it appears at least), but not sure if the earnings will come through.

Anyone has more findings on this?

[khurtsiya]

Wat language is it? i'm prioritizing my moving of names out.
It is ASCII.com.ua

[Explorer]

I just checked, Adsense doesn't seem to be banned (it appears at least), but not sure if the earnings will come through.

Anyone has more findings on this?


While I never tested it, my understanding was that adsense will be blocked as well. Please keep in mind that if there is an Adsense ban, it will take 48 hours or so to be fully implemented. You could also install an Adsense preview tool (work for IE only) (https://www.google.com/adsense/support/bin/answer.py?answer=10005&topic=160) to see what's being served in different locations.

There is a chance that I am wrong and Adsense is not blocked, so we could all take a breather. So, if you could come back to us in 48 hours, we'd appreciate it.

[touchring]

While I never tested it, my understanding was that adsense will be blocked as well. Please keep in mind that if there is an Adsense ban, it will take 48 hours or so to be fully implemented. You could also install an Adsense preview tool (work for IE only) (https://www.google.com/adsense/support/bin/answer.py?answer=10005&topic=160) to see what's being served in different locations.

There is a chance that I am wrong and Adsense is not blocked, so we could all take a breather. So, if you could come back to us in 48 hours, we'd appreciate it.


Ops, too early to rejoice then.

Btw, has anyone got their name blocked even when the name is under a minisite or website? I'm considering whether to delete the name entirely from ND, besides changing DNS.

[Drewbert]

I had yet another one blocked today. No email so far.

"subsidy" in Japanese. :O

[zenmarketing]

白金.com just got blocked.
"Platinum"

[Asiaplay]

Happy to see this topic getting openly discussed - as seems is very widespread...

Just thinking that perhaps this discussion is better moved to be under "members area" topics (rather than left open to search engines) - if anyone thinks so - please notify Olney or another admin here (as seems Olney is not checking his PMs at the moment and I am not sure who is best to suggest this to).

Just thinking might be a good idea for some of you, given the angle the topic has taken (for myself personally, I am not worried, so idea is just with you guys in mind).

Cheers, Asiaplay

[Rubber Duck]

And why might that be a good idea?

Happy to see this topic getting openly discussed - as seems is very widespread...

Just thinking that perhaps this discussion is better moved to be under "members area" topics (rather than left open to search engines) - if anyone thinks so - please notify Olney or another admin here (as seems Olney is not checking his PMs at the moment and I am not sure who is best to suggest this to).

Just thinking might be a good idea for some of you, given the angle the topic has taken (for myself personally, I am not worried, so idea is just with you guys in mind).

Cheers, Asiaplay

[zenmarketing]

I think we need a private invite-only forum anyway. Even the "members area" here is open to anybody with an email address.

[jose]

I think we need a private invite-only forum anyway. Even the "members area" here is open to anybody with an email address.

Hummm...

[Rubber Duck]

I suggested to Jose the other day that we convert DNLocal to precisely that. Anyone else think that might be a good idea? This place get pretty private most of the time, as it gets impossible to log on when 3 people turn up at once!

[Fka200]

I was thinking about that a couple days ago. I was even going to go ahead and buy a domain, but didn't want to maintain a forum. I was also going to post it up on DNL but I couldn't post a thread!

[jacksonm]

I suggested to Jose the other day that we convert DNLocal to precisely that. Anyone else think that might be a good idea?


It would need to exclude any untrustworthy people from having access to the knobs before I would participate (assuming I would even be invited)...

Oh well, this site crashes all day long but it does seem to effectively remember and apply the contents of my ignore list (1). The unfortunate architectural flaw is that the site doesn't provide me with the capability to prevent the ignoree from reading anything that I post.

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[Asiaplay]

Agree for some discussions - would be useful...

Guess issue would be who got invited to join (and who decides list :) )...
I would run it, if someone else helped moderate it - but I am afraid that I would not get invited to join ;) - lol

Cheers - Asiaplay

[thegenius1]

Alot of us are premium members here and we do have that option to start utilizing that part of the forum more.

[Asiaplay]

Alot of us are premium members here and we do have that option to start utilizing that part of the forum more.

looks like I am just an old "senior" b@%tard... ohh one step closer to becoming a premium whisk(e)y now... :)

[bwhhisc]

looks like I am just an old "senior" b@%tard... ohh one step closer to becoming a premium whisk(e)y now... :)
You have to pay a small annual fee to become a premium member.
Gives you an upgrade to 2000 pm's stored in your account as well.

[alex]

I just received the following email from ND. Unfortunately, they seem to have pasted Unicode into an ASCII email, rather than using Punycode.

Due to a misunderstanding with our advertising partner, some of your domains were incorrectly marked as blocked on our system. We're happy to say that, for the domains below, we have managed to resolve the situation and the domains are now live again on the NameDrive system. We will work on moving them out of your Blocked Folder over the next 24 hours to ensure that everything is returned back to normal.

If you have any domains which were marked as blocked this week but are not listed below as resolved, we are still working to resolve the issues on these domains. If we can get the domains unblocked, then we will inform you by mail.

[khurtsiya]

Parked @ ND. What does this means now?!

http://www.sexevidéos.com/
I see the parking page.

[zenmarketing]

Haha, yes, I think we all are seeing that ??.com is still blocked.

Thanks!

When is every application on earth going to default to Unicode? I can't wait.

[touchring]

nice, but a wake up notice on what google is toying with.

[bashaar]

oh well the fact that google recognized it as an adult domain is good news to me :P.

[jose]

I see the parking page.

Fixed. ;)

[jacksonm]

oh well the fact that google recognized it as an adult domain is good news to me :P.


They might be testing their adult blocking in an effort to start allowing IDN display URLs for Adwords.

If this is the case, then it's fine - I only have a handful of adult domains anyway.

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[burnsinternet]

Non-adults blocked today. I was knocking on wood from the time this thread started.

It is odd, but every time I praise NameDrive IDN parking on another forum, something bad happens to my domains.

Anything blocked I will just move over to another parking program. I just have to change DNS. They are all set up because of the last NameDrive problem. Apologies or not, I will not have good domains down for a week or a weekend because someone was eager to pull a trigger.

Last time cost me a lot of time and some money. Always have a backup plan.

I love ND, but I will not let them hurt me again.

blastfromthepast: Also got blocked. Annoyed. Money lost.

<OK, the below response was a response to Blast's post, but it somehow disappeared. That really ticks me off when you just delete your own posts, Blast.>

Try getting thousands blocked on a Friday before a holiday weekend. Spent the whole weekend moving domains over and optimizing. It really took a week before everything was straightened out.

Now I know my other options, but I prefer NameDrive.