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Sunny
22nd February 2008, 02:18 AM
300$ for a commercial term .com or .jp japanese domain, with overture higher than 25000.

Russian domains are also ok.

alpha
22nd February 2008, 02:27 AM
300$ for a commercial term .com or .jp japanese domain, with overture higher than 25000.

Russian domains are also ok.

no offense. but 300 bucks :confused:

if you get one, flip it to me for $500 - thanks.

Sunny
22nd February 2008, 02:49 AM
well, there r many unregistered commersial japanese terms with ~10000 OVT. So I think for 25000 OVT price of 300$ is good. no?

But actually 20000 OVT is also ok.

ca191s
22nd February 2008, 03:27 AM
八戸.com VOT:17802 300$ registered more years! at 2005 years, After expired deletion, I catch it!
鈴鹿.com VOT:25838 680$ registered more years! at 2004 years, After expired deletion, I catch it!

Sunny
22nd February 2008, 03:48 AM
OK, I will consider it. Anything else?

mulligan
22nd February 2008, 05:06 AM
OK, I will consider it. Anything else?
Heres the thing .. you may be late to the 'game' and IMO .. don't think you can pick up "commercial term .com or .jp japanese domain, with overture higher than 25000." for $300 .. this is not meant to put you off .. it's just reality .. people are locking down their 'good shit' .. do some research .. use the online dictionaries .. most of all .. read the 'early days' threads here and at dnlocal.com .. don't give up .. I have lists of stuff I haven't registered (and, no they are not for sale) most of which I expect to be gone when I re-scan them.

My advice? .. for what it's worth .. if you have some cash 'jump' on stuff before it's 'out of reach' .. It's not too late ... :)

But .. do your research before 'jumping' .. Yahoo Japan ... with quotes .. Google trends .. (Remember .. Japan Ovt hasn't been updated since April last year and seeing as Yahoo has most of the search market in Japan .. use Yahoo Japan) .. Read and learn .. you'll get there .. eventually

I'm sure theres things I missed out on .. but others will correct me .... :p

Of course .. there are the flippers and bargains to be had .. but you need to 'pull the trigger' faster than those of us who can see the value and have been IDNing longer than you

Ryu
22nd February 2008, 05:33 AM
You can grab any of the below for $300 USD. :)

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Sunny
22nd February 2008, 05:57 AM
And then u say I cant get names with more than 25000 OVT for 300$ :)
Some of these have even 60000 OVT.

But, really, I dont like erotic names.
I want something for development, but I dont want to make adult sites.

mulligan
22nd February 2008, 06:09 AM
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Ryu
22nd February 2008, 06:22 AM
Ok... I've got something more sober for you then. ;)

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clipper
22nd February 2008, 06:25 AM
Thank you, Mulligan. シェラック regged.

mulligan
22nd February 2008, 06:29 AM
Thank you, Mulligan. シェラック regged.
Most welcome clipper .. :)

More lists will appear on dnlocal.com

Ryu
22nd February 2008, 06:30 AM
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mulligan
22nd February 2008, 06:34 AM
No offense to you... But I don't think it's a good idea to list a number of TM domains on the public forum. Some members may get a wrong idea.
Point taken but could you point out the TMs please?

Sunny
22nd February 2008, 06:46 AM
テンダーロイン 71,081 OVT but its TM.

ティンバー maybe its trademark. 8,229 OVT

ダボ - Dowel 2,534 OVT

シェラック - 35,584 OVT but its TM

シープスキン sheepskin 2208 OVT

サルトル - Jean-Paul Charles Aymard Sartre 4,574 OVT

キーパー 5,821 OVT

エレクトリック - adj. electric, operating on electricity 7,477 OVT


So what do u want to say with this list?
I wouldn't register these terms neither, since the ones with more than 10000OVT are all TMs.
But the ones in Ryu's list are not TMs. Or even if they are, they are common words, so there is no problem.

alpha
22nd February 2008, 06:47 AM
And then u say I cant get names with more than 25000 OVT for 300$ :)
Some of these have even 60000 OVT.

But, really, I dont like erotic names.
I want something for development, but I dont want to make adult sites.

you said commercial. To me, that's not a TM, not an adult. Commercial to me is a product or a service, and like i said if you find any, i'll be sure to want them too.

Sunny
22nd February 2008, 06:57 AM
you said commercial. To me, that's not a TM, not an adult. Commercial to me is a product or a service

True. So I didn't get any commercials for 300$ yet.

Ok... I've got something more sober for you then. ;)

Actually these seem to be not bad. Do u get any type-in traffic?

But actually what I want is some commercial product. Maybe 25000 OVT is too much for 300$, so i will consider 15000+ OVT offers also.

Ryu
22nd February 2008, 07:19 AM
To me, that's not a TM, not an adult. Commercial to me is a product or a service,

Here you go. I've got a HUGE product name for you.

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Actually these seem to be not bad. Do u get any type-in traffic?

Not that I know of... When it comes to Japanese IDNs, it's only very top names and very dodge names that I seem to be getting any type-in traffic with.

Ryu
22nd February 2008, 07:46 AM
But actually what I want is some commercial product. Maybe 25000 OVT is too much for 300$, so i will consider 15000+ OVT offers also.

You can get "deleted" at $200.

But, if you are up for development, why don't you buy "deleted" from me at $50 and develop it. This name has one of the highest CPC that I know of (at a maximum CPC of $46.31).

thegenius1
22nd February 2008, 07:59 AM
Add Another Zero and you can go home with a Site already Developed

携帯番号.com (http://xn--rprr1vu2e51t.com)

CellphoneNumber.com


http://news.3yen.com/wp-content/images/sad_celphone_lady.jpg

This site allows people inside of Japan using Vodafone to do FREE Text messaging to mobile phones from the Website.

Steal it before its Fully Complete ( just need to intergrate Ad's and Translate a few more things )

BIN :3k

Avail 24hrs

Will Also Throw in the .JP

Sunny
22nd February 2008, 08:09 AM
...

First two are good. Allow some time for me to do research, maybe I will buy them.

thegenius1
22nd February 2008, 08:11 AM
First two are good. Allow some time for me to do research, maybe I will buy them.

My offers are good for 2hrs so hopefully you can complete your research by then if interested.

Sunny
22nd February 2008, 08:17 AM
My offers are good for 2hrs so hopefully you can complete your research by then if interested.

Thanks for your offers, but I want commercial products.

thegenius1
22nd February 2008, 08:30 AM
Thanks for your offers, but I want commercial products.

I give it one more 5 a.m shot then off to bed offer good for 15 minutes

ビニール.jp Vinyl.jp

チンチラ.jp Chinchilla.jp

Sunny
22nd February 2008, 08:35 AM
I give it one more 5 a.m shot then off to bed offer good for 15 minutes

Come on, I just regged today two products with such overtures. Why should I pay 300$ for smth I can get for regfee.

OK, I decided not to buy anything. Ryu's domains were regged in this year, so I guess if I am lucky, I can also reg domains like this:) .
頑張ろう!:p

sunsei21
22nd February 2008, 10:18 AM
Come on, I just regged today two products with such overtures. Why should I pay 300$ for smth I can get for regfee.

OK, I decided not to buy anything. Ryu's domains were regged in this year, so I guess if I am lucky, I can also reg domains like this:) .
頑張ろう!:p

nevermind.....

mulligan
22nd February 2008, 10:24 AM
Come on, I just regged today two products with such overtures. Why should I pay 300$ for smth I can get for regfee.


Which begs the question of why you started the thread in the first place if you can find such 'quality' by yourself? Are you deliberately trying to piss people off? Domainers have 'long' memories ...

555
22nd February 2008, 10:25 AM
OK, I decided not to buy anything.
Shocking surprise.

ca191s
22nd February 2008, 10:37 AM
“OVT " is not judges a name the sole criterion!

I saw some people do not understand pretend to understand! ha!

Ha Ha

Sunny
22nd February 2008, 11:31 AM
Which begs the question of why you started the thread in the first place if you can find such 'quality' by yourself? Are you deliberately trying to piss people off? Domainers have 'long' memories ...

Please don't understand me wrong.
Until now, what i could reg is with overture not more than 15 000. So here is what i thought: if 15000 ovt is still available, that is anybody can get it for regfee, then for 300$ I can get a pretty good domain with OVT more than 25000. But it seems that it is not like this.
And then I find out that Ryu could register a good domain with 20000 OVT just about a month ago.
Consequently, I decide not to buy anything, because what is sold for 300$ is still available for regfee if u search hard, and of course I don't think that it is only me who can find such domains.

This resembles to me a situation with gold miners, when although for gold miners gold doesn't cost much because it is freely available, but still the price for it is high. In this situation gold miners would not buy gold from each other.

This is how I see it.

jacksonm
22nd February 2008, 11:41 AM
“OVT " is not judges a name the sole criterion!



You are right.

A good name only needs to be convincing and have terms which relate to some commercial value. It doesn't even need to be a very short name - sometimes longer is better.

Also, "OVT" type of measurement tools are not very accurate. They should only be used as a guide. I have several minisites where the domain name itself has no OVT,
no Google Trends, etc, yet they get hundreds of visitors per day.

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Sunny
22nd February 2008, 11:58 AM
I think that OVT is the most important factor for type-in traffic. That is why I need a good name anyway.
Because developed sites are not judged by the name, but by the contents.

mulligan
22nd February 2008, 12:06 PM
I think that OVT is the most important factor for type-in traffic. That is why I need a good name anyway.
Because developed sites are not judged by the name, but by the contents.

This is where you will 'Fall Down' ... I and others have names with ovt of 500k+ ... 1 million+ and they get 'diddly shit' type in ...

sellerjin
22nd February 2008, 12:07 PM
300$ for a commercial term .com or .jp japanese domain, with overture higher than 25000.

Russian domains are also ok.

色情貼圖.com
TW OVT: 37503
welcome PM
:p

Sunny
22nd February 2008, 12:12 PM
色情貼圖.com
TW OVT: 37503
welcome PM
:p

I don't think its in japanese language..
And as far as I could understand the meaning, it is "adult" domain, and I don't like such domains.

jacksonm
22nd February 2008, 12:16 PM
This is where you will 'Fall Down' ... I and others have names with ovt of 500k+ ... 1 million+ and they get 'diddly shit' type in ...


Yes, especially for Japanese I have found this to be true. A name with something line 1.2 million OVT getting 6-8 type-ins per day. Disgusting!

Just because people search for something a lot doesn't necessarily mean that they will type it in. It's a real art to understand which domains will get type-in, and don't expect anybody to ever reveal that knowledge to you at any price.

.

mulligan
22nd February 2008, 12:26 PM
... and don't expect anybody to ever reveal that knowledge to you at any price. ..

Word ... :p

Sunny
22nd February 2008, 12:50 PM
Word ... :p


Haha, then I guess I will have to understand it by my own.


Btw 6-8 type-ins per day for a japanese domain with 1.2 million OVT..
By itself it doesn't say anything to me because I need to compare it with something. If u then can give an example of a domain with 6-8 OVT and 1.2 million type-ins per day, that would be very convincing . :)

Because it is said that japanese domains don't get much type-in anyway.

touchring
22nd February 2008, 01:00 PM
Btw 6-8 type-ins per day for a japanese domain with 1.2 million OVT..
By itself it doesn't say anything to me because I need to compare it with something. If u then can give an example of a domain with 6-8 OVT and 1.2 million type-ins per day, that would be very convincing . :)


Did someone say that IE7 has gained 20% marketshare by now? Where's the typein?

Sunny
22nd February 2008, 01:09 PM
Did someone say that IE7 has gained 20% marketshare by now? Where's the typein?

I don't have any statistics, because all my sites are parked only for around 1 month, but still I tend to think that type-in increased in this period.

yanni
22nd February 2008, 05:16 PM
Did someone say that IE7 has gained 20% marketshare by now? Where's the typein?

The Japanese, we have figured by now, do not by large belong to the type-in "mindset".

So, what's 20% of 0?

Sunny
28th February 2008, 12:26 PM
300$ for a commercial term .com or .jp japanese domain, with overture higher than 25000.

Russian domains are also ok.

no offense. but 300 bucks :confused:

if you get one, flip it to me for $500 - thanks.

OK, I have regged a couple of commercial products with 28000+ OVT.
So according to what u have said, u will buy them for 500$.

ハンドル: steering wheel, automobile guidance system, device for guiding the car, navigating wheel
メッシュキャップ: Mesh cap

ハンドル.jp 28,959 OVT ( ハンドル.com was registered at jan-2006)
メッシュキャップ.jp , メッシュキャップ.com : 28,362 OVT

very clear google images results for メッシュキャップ: http://images.google.com/images?q=%E3%83%A1%E3%83%83%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A5%E3%82%AD%E3%83%A3%E3%83%83%E3%83%97&ie=UTF-8&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&sa=N&tab=wi

and for ハンドル:
http://images.google.com/images?um=1&hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=%E3%83%8F%E3%83%B3%E3%83%89%E3%83%AB&btnG=Search+Images

google SERP for "ハンドル":23,800,000
google SERP for "メッシュキャップ": 624,000
yahoo SERP for "ハンドル": 62,700,000
yahoo SERP for "メッシュキャップ": 1,310,000

a lot of ads for both of them when searched in yahoo.co.jp:

メッシュキャップ:
http://search.yahoo.co.jp/search?p=%22%E3%83%A1%E3%83%83%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A5%E3%82%AD%E3%83%A3%E3%83%83%E3%83%97%22&ei=UTF-8&fr=top_ga1&x=wrt

ハンドル:
http://search.yahoo.co.jp/search?p=%22%E3%83%8F%E3%83%B3%E3%83%89%E3%83%AB%22&ei=UTF-8&fr=top_ga1&x=wrt

ハンドル also has google trends comparable to that of a city with population of 127,000 people(箕面):
http://www.google.com/trends?q=%E3%83%8F%E3%83%B3%E3%83%89%E3%83%AB%E3%80%81%E6%9D%B1%E4%BA%AC%E5%B8%82&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0

Waiting for your offers, Alphamale.

alpha
28th February 2008, 12:34 PM
I'm not surprised you found something in .jp, I think there are quite a few obscure terms still open.

but i don't think they're worth $500 IMO, if the steering wheel were .com, that would be different.

but def worth the reg, nice find!

Sunny
28th February 2008, 12:59 PM
I'm not surprised you found something in .jp, I think there are quite a few obscure terms still open.

but i don't think they're worth $500 IMO, if the steering wheel were .com, that would be different.

but def worth the reg, nice find!

Whats wrong with メッシュキャップ.com with 28,362 OVT then?

alpha
28th February 2008, 01:02 PM
Whats wrong with メッシュキャップ.com with 28,362 OVT then?

i admit i haven't looked into it, but "mesh hat"... i expect baseball cap/hat etc would be the prime term..

Sunny
28th February 2008, 01:13 PM
I don't know if it is the primary term or not, but isn't the fact that 28,362 people are searching for "メッシュキャップ" every month, a compelling evidence of its worth?

But ok, u name the price. For how much would u buy it?

blastfromthepast
7th March 2008, 01:08 AM
300$ for a commercial term .com or .jp japanese domain, with overture higher than 25000.

Come on, I just regged today two products with such overtures. Why should I pay 300$ for smth I can get for regfee.

As usual, those who post budgets and brag about their buying abilities are full of hot air.

As the above shows, this is just a ploy to get people to PM or post lists of the domains that have been reg'd to give them ideas, inspiration or copycat style regging techniques.

no offense. but 300 bucks :confused:

if you get one, flip it to me for $500 - thanks.

As you showed in this thread, you aren't buying commercial .jp for $500 or even $300 yourself either, so why bother?

Sunny
7th March 2008, 05:19 AM
Come on, I just regged today two products with such overtures. Why should I pay 300$ for smth I can get for regfee.

This was about domains with 10000 and 13000 OVT offered by TheGenius1, not about 25000 OVT domains.
I will still buy 25000 OVT commercial domains, but not for the price of 300$.
As I could understand from Alphamale behavior, 300$ is too much for it.

blastfromthepast
7th March 2008, 05:23 AM
You live in Japan?

touchring
7th March 2008, 05:40 AM
This was about domains with 10000 and 13000 OVT offered by TheGenius1, not about 25000 OVT domains.
I will still buy 25000 OVT commercial domains, but not for the price of 300$.
As I could understand from Alphamale behavior, 300$ is too much for it.



Ovt is only a guideline. Don't treat it too seriously, especially for japanese, when ovt does not even indicate traffic.

markits
7th March 2008, 06:46 AM
OVT score does indicate traffic for Japanese com domains. All my regular trafficed (small though) Japanese domains are having high ovt score.

jacksonm
7th March 2008, 06:55 AM
OVT score does indicate traffic for Japanese com domains. All my regular trafficed (small though) Japanese domains are having high ovt score.


Yep, on a term with over 1.1m OVT, I get 5-15 type-ins per day.

Pathetic. Japanese should really learn how to type-in.

.

thegenius1
7th March 2008, 07:08 AM
OVT score does indicate traffic for Japanese com domains. All my regular trafficed (small though) Japanese domains are having high ovt score.

Not necessarily , Depends what type of traffic you are talking about. I have some domains with ovt in the Low thousands that receive more traffic then 50+k ovt.

Sunny
7th March 2008, 07:35 AM
Not necessarily , Depends what type of traffic you are talking about. I have some domains with ovt in the Low thousands that receive more traffic then 50+k ovt.

Type-in traffic??

You live in Japan?

Yes.

sunsei21
7th March 2008, 10:50 AM
Type-in traffic??

type in is what people do when they don't use search engines or they want to go to a site directly that they have a url for. i never tried it until i started domaining now i just like to see whats there its the dumbest way to find something jmo i prefer search engines :)

so if u want cars.com if u want sex go to sex.com etc

Sunny
7th March 2008, 11:35 AM
type in is what people do when they don't use search engines or they want to go to a site directly that they have a url for. i never tried it until i started domaining now i just like to see whats there its the dumbest way to find something jmo i prefer search engines :)

so if u want cars.com if u want sex go to sex.com etc

Thanks, but I know what is type-in traffic. I was asking whether it is type-in traffic that he is talking about, or not.

Ryu
7th March 2008, 01:38 PM
This was about domains with 10000 and 13000 OVT offered by TheGenius1, not about 25000 OVT domains.
I will still buy 25000 OVT commercial domains, but not for the price of 300$.
As I could understand from Alphamale behavior, 300$ is too much for it.

Let's see how much an ovt 36,255 commercial product name can fetch then...

http://www.idnforums.com/forums/17324-japanese-commercial-product-dot-com-on-auction.html#post110195

It's not a great name. But it's still a commercial product and has a good ovt score.

Terms of the auction are set in such a way that it's within everybody's reach.