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blastfromthepast
17th December 2009, 01:11 PM
Sales from the http://sedo.com/euIDN Auction

blastfromthepast
17th December 2009, 01:13 PM
hôtel.eu
1,252 EUR

hôtels.eu
1,257 EUR
https://sedo.com/auction/history/hôtels.eu/90744_us__

blastfromthepast
17th December 2009, 01:35 PM
büromöbel.eu
4,100 EUR
https://sedo.com/auction/auction_history.php?language=us&auction_id=88767

bettwäsche.eu
1,301 EUR
https://sedo.com/auction/auction_history.php?language=us&auction_id=88505

häuser.eu
2,205 EUR
https://sedo.com/auction/auction_history.php?language=us&auction_id=90765

fahrräder.eu
1,600 EUR
https://sedo.com/auction/auction_history.php?language=us&auction_id=89546

gartenmöbel.eu
4,300 EUR
https://sedo.com/auction/auction_history.php?language=us&auction_id=89878

blastfromthepast
17th December 2009, 01:36 PM
интернет.eu
1,001 EUR
https://sedo.com/auction/history/интернет.eu/89327_us__

blastfromthepast
17th December 2009, 02:00 PM
südtirol.eu
9,900 EUR
https://sedo.com/auction/history/südtirol.eu/93200_us__

möbel.eu
9,100 EUR
https://sedo.com/auction/history/möbel.eu/91730_us__

müller.eu
6,600 EUR
https://sedo.com/auction/history/müller.eu/94594_us__

blastfromthepast
17th December 2009, 02:14 PM
öl.eu
2,150 EUR
https://sedo.com/auction/auction_history.php?language=us&auction_id=91430

münzen.eu
3,460 EUR
https://sedo.com/auction/history/münzen.eu/91987_us__

küchen.eu
1,800 EUR
https://sedo.com/auction/auction_history.php?language=us&auction_id=90980

führerschein.eu
1,650 EUR
https://sedo.com/auction/auction_history.php?language=us&auction_id=89632

düsseldorf.eu
1,266 EUR
https://sedo.com/auction/history/düsseldorf.eu/89296_us__

rechtsanwälte.eu
2,908 EUR
https://sedo.com/auction/history/rechtsanwälte.eu/92654_us__

Fka200
17th December 2009, 02:54 PM
I wonder what the other Cyrillics went for. Can't seem to find the history!

blastfromthepast
17th December 2009, 03:34 PM
reisebüro.eu
9,999 EUR
https://sedo.com/auction/history/reisebüro.eu/92670_us__

yanni
17th December 2009, 05:19 PM
I wonder what the other Cyrillics went for. Can't seem to find the history!

россия.eu 260 EUR

That's the only one I can find

Rubber Duck
17th December 2009, 06:54 PM
россия.eu 260 EUR

That's the only one I can find

Sorry, but there were others going through higher than that. Seem to think one went for about 1500. The last domain to go down was two letter representation of Czech Republic. What a drawn out affair that was. Everyone else had gone to bed!

Today, will go down as a Red Letter Day, but most non-Europeans did not even notice. Actually, I was surprised how much activity there was from the Poles. Latins were a bit subdued though.

yanni
17th December 2009, 07:34 PM
Sorry, but there were others going through higher than that. Seem to think one went for about 1500. The last domain to go down was two letter representation of Czech Republic. What a drawn out affair that was. Everyone else had gone to bed!

Today, will go down as a Red Letter Day, but most non-Europeans did not even notice. Actually, I was surprised how much activity there was from the Poles. Latins were a bit subdued though.

I know there were others higher than the one posted. All I'm saying is that most are not resolving to the Sedo auction results page.

Rubber Duck
17th December 2009, 07:39 PM
I know there were others higher than the one posted. All I'm saying is that most are not resolving to the Sedo auction results page.

Sorry, I didn't even realize they produced a summary. I thought we would have to wait for DNJ.

A link would be appreciated. Thanks

yanni
17th December 2009, 08:04 PM
Sorry, I didn't even realize they produced a summary. I thought we would have to wait for DNJ.

A link would be appreciated. Thanks

No summary. What I did was actually type in the domain and it would take you to the sedo page with the auction result for that particular name. It worked on a few, but not on most.

sarcle
17th December 2009, 08:19 PM
Damn I miss all the fun. Anyone see how much my Czech city went for?

Plzeň.eu

But all in all it's going to be a nice DNJ next week. :)

IDNCowboy
17th December 2009, 08:29 PM
Damn I miss all the fun. Anyone see how much my Czech city went for?

Plzeň.eu

But all in all it's going to be a nice DNJ next week. :)

darn so you mean the IDN landrush got all of the people buying IDNs while avoiding all of our .com and .net IDNs...

EVEN our .ws and .biz which rules .eu :)

sarcle
17th December 2009, 08:33 PM
darn so you mean the IDN landrush got all of the people buying IDNs while avoiding all of our .com and .net IDNs...

EVEN our .ws and .biz which rules .eu :)

I'm guessing it's the same people that already run www.plzen.eu (http://www.plzen.eu). But who knows.

yanni
17th December 2009, 09:21 PM
EVEN our .ws and .biz which rules .eu :)

Don't be so sure about that. Many businesses in the EU prefer .eu after their cctld, .com and .info.
WS and BIZ means nothing to them; EU does.

Rubber Duck
17th December 2009, 09:40 PM
Don't be so sure about that. Many businesses in the EU prefer .eu after their cctld, .com and .info.
WS and BIZ means nothing to them; EU does.

I think you can safely say that dot WS has just about zero traction.

I used a dot Biz once. Not really a good idea.

blastfromthepast
17th December 2009, 09:41 PM
Suprisingly little interest from the French, Spanish, and Portuguese.

Rubber Duck
17th December 2009, 09:44 PM
Suprisingly little interest from the French, Spanish, and Portuguese.

I would have said Characteristically rather than Surprisingly, but disappointing perhaps, nevertheless.

blastfromthepast
17th December 2009, 09:56 PM
I would have said Characteristically rather than Surprisingly, but disappointing perhaps, nevertheless.

Would you attribute that to political sentiment or the fact that those countries are statistically reluctant to type accents in search?

Rubber Duck
17th December 2009, 10:02 PM
Would you attribute that to political sentiment or the fact that those countries are statistically reluctant to type accents in search?

I think it is linguistic factors. The French have always dropped accents in capitalization. They aren't really anymore necessary in French than English. It is all down to whether you need the written language to be strictly phonetic or not and the degree of confusion that dropping the accents causes. Written English doesn't really give a comprehensive guide to pronunciation, but we get by.

rofsjan
17th December 2009, 10:45 PM
Anyone see how much my Czech city went for?
Plzeň.eu

170 EUR (https://sedo.com/auction/auction_history.php?auction_id=92427)

Suprisingly little interest from the French, Spanish, and Portuguese.


got a good Spanish geo for a reasonable price. There wasn't much competition.

I didn't expect so much interest in hôtel(s) though. But my experience with ô is limited.

As for cyrillic characters, интернет.eu surprised me. Nice confirmation for интернет in combination with other extentions.

sarcle
17th December 2009, 10:49 PM
170 EUR (https://sedo.com/auction/auction_history.php?auction_id=92427)


Thanks! Rep added.

domainshouse
10th January 2010, 02:41 PM
Like in other languages typing accents or don´t type is so different as for the englishmen typing idol or icon.
In French typing etude it is not the same as typing êtude or étude. See the following examples:
1-The Études-tableaux ("study pictures") are two sets of piano études composed by Sergei Rachmaninoff , arranged under opus number s 33 and ...

and
2- Maurice Hutin, Maurice Leblanc, "Êtude sur les Courants Alternatifs et leur Applicationg au Transport de la Force", La Lumière Electrique, ...

Etude is one word or another linguisticallly. Not the same meaning.

In portuguese, for example do not typing "esperança" is iliteracy as esperanca means nothing and not only linguistically.

I guess what germans could say about the need of typing accents or not.

Regards to all
Carlos Martins

jose
10th January 2010, 02:52 PM
Bem vindo Carlos. :)

domainshouse
10th January 2010, 03:05 PM
Bem vindo Carlos. :)
obrigado José.

Carlos Martins
www.domainsinternational.net

domainshouse
10th January 2010, 03:09 PM
obrigado José.

Carlos Martins
www.domainsinternational.net
Anyone can tell me (according experience or simple thoughts) what is better to sell IDN .EU domains? On Sedo or IDN Forums?
It seems the big problem is that on SEDO any bid can reach thousands if any bidders show interest on it and on IDN Forums since we can start with a big amount there is a risk of just one bidder can win it without any competitors. What you really thin on this?

Thanks for any contribution.
Carlos Martins
Lisbon/Madrid/Barcelona
www.domainsinternational.net

jose
10th January 2010, 03:09 PM
obrigado José.

Carlos Martins
www.domainsinternational.net

Maybe it would be good to introduce yourself. :)

domainshouse
10th January 2010, 03:23 PM
Maybe it would be good to introduce yourself. :)
In what section in this forum or just here? Do you mean talk about i do, what i am, what i want from here?

I am a portuguese representative of domainsinternational.net a recent web site also for Madrid and Barcelona. I am mainly a domainer, particualrly active in other forums and auction web sites.

Please guide me a little.
Carlos Martins
www.domainsinternational.net

rofsjan
10th January 2010, 04:43 PM
Like in other languages typing accents or don´t type is so different as for the englishmen typing idol or icon.
...
Regards to all
Carlos Martins

Welcome aboard, Carlos Martins.
Accents are important according to the grammar, but
google trends show us a different picture. Take a look at following examples:
http://google.com/trends?q=Portugu%C3%AAs,+Portugues&geo=prt&sa=N
http://google.com/trends?q=hot%C3%A9is,+hoteis&date=all&geo=prt&ctab=0&sort=0&sa=N

domainshouse
10th January 2010, 05:15 PM
yes, its true and confirm that Google and other search engines are working well and wonderfully on iliteracy trying to uniform all languages in one, the american english and mainly the ameican english dialects. You are right about what people search but you are wrong (as Google) in the uniformization of languages as some authoritarians tried to do in 1939 with nations.

I agree with you that is easy to type burozeit instead of bürozeit.eu (mine) but for the germans burozeit is an american typical form of reduzing the etimology of the words, its origins and meaning. It is the same as if you imitate a Dali painting and instead of the analog watches you paint digital watches. After all, as Google and others think, are simply watches.
That´s the federalism on linguistics.

Regards
Carlos Martins
www.domainsinternational.net

domainshouse
10th January 2010, 05:24 PM
Let me add the following:
Accents are not only important for grammar. As you know words are symbols and have nothing to do only with grammar but also with their origins as symbols. In certain tribes it is so simple to understand them if you know what they meant - in conclusion: if you undesrtand their symbols. A pseudo-modernization of the language is betraying their symbology and ethimology. Google is not the only faker, the fault is of iliterate cybernauts that speak worst than the first navigators that knew from theirs masters, some important aspects of the symbology.
Finding a way by the stars was one of them.

Carlos Martins
www.domainsinternational.net

jose
10th January 2010, 06:30 PM
Welcome aboard, Carlos Martins.
Accents are important according to the grammar, but
google trends show us a different picture. Take a look at following examples:
http://google.com/trends?q=Portugu%C3%AAs,+Portugues&geo=prt&sa=N
http://google.com/trends?q=hot%C3%A9is,+hoteis&date=all&geo=prt&ctab=0&sort=0&sa=N

Let's take the Português x Portugues example:

1. Google gives "Português" results for Portugues and "Portugues" results for Português.

2. Someone launching a site on Português would prefer to have the easiest to type in, right? Well, wrong, imho. Would you prefer to have Engl.com instead of English.com, just because the first one is easier to type in?

rofsjan
10th January 2010, 08:54 PM
2. Someone launching a site on Português would prefer to have the easiest to type in, right? Well, wrong, imho.

as the owner of Português.net, I don't mind.

domainshouse
11th January 2010, 11:00 AM
yes, you are right. if you have poortuguês.net you are lucky as you can attract mainly end users that need to build a web site about teaching of portuguese, even if they are second generation emigrants.

however and according a member of this Forum (yanni) (i quote):
"Many businesses in the EU prefer .eu after their cctld, .com and .info.
WS and BIZ means nothing to them; EU does."

..................................................................end of quotation.

If you can reach it try to subscribe also português.eu (an IDN) and try to sell it on SEDO together with português.net and see what results you get.

According some experts the extension .net tend to disappear (it is decreasing year by year) as its initial purpose is mostly ignored by web masters/mistresses. The it is a good thing to invest on IDNs .eu more mainly because is a recent extension and briefly will attract the american investors (domainers) mainly for market goals (selling it by thousands).
But maybe i am wrong on it. What you think?

Rgds
Carlos Martins
www.domainsinternational.net

blastfromthepast
11th January 2010, 11:41 AM
A pseudo-modernization of the language is betraying their symbology and ethimology

The general trend in many languages has been to remove accents where they can be understood from context.

For example polytonic Greek has gone out of favour for Greek written without accents. The same has happened with Cyrillic, which used to be written with a half dozen accents, but now this is no longer done.

In the 1920s, English used words like cöoperation regularly. Today, this is done only as an archaic flourish in the New Yorker magazine.

Latin languages follow this trend as well, just look at search statistics. French and Spanish users don't type in accents. I expect that eventually this will become the official way of spelling, as it is, frankly, simpler to omit something and deduce from context, rather than to over complicate things.

domainshouse
11th January 2010, 12:15 PM
Sorry but i don´t agree with you. Cooperation with accent ot not it is the same word and the same symbol. It is not the same thing when you take off accents in êtude or étude or for example cão (dog in portuguese). You are just telling that iliteracy is the future and symbolic on words tend to be vanished by Internet and cybernauts. When you read cooperation and cooperation with the old accent it is pratically the same when it sounds. However cão and cao sounds differently. Like coração and coracao (the first one is portuguese the other is cybernetics for iliterates), it sounds differently, not are the same word that is coração (heart in portuguese).
It seems you defend a kind if federation for the language imposed by the high ir "on the desk" (as we said in portuguese "na secretária", without asking to own people what they want to do. Of course it´s easy to read burozeit and not bürozeit.eu but it sounds probably too different for german people and worst may it change the meaning of it and the symbolic and ethimology of the word. I think this doesn´t matter to you but it is an opinion and i respect it but we are talking about different things, sorry to say. If you understand portuguese a little try to speak loud coracao instead of coração and hear the result. Coracao = Cora cao = blush dog, blush!
coração = heart in portuguese not to do with cora and cao or worst coracao (that sounds like curaçau a port somewhere in latin america).

I know that are best sellers with titles like "Internet for Idiots" but fortunately are the idiots that learn that way.

However and finally i respect your opinion. But repeat: are two different things, you never cite the importance of the symbolic of the words and the ethimology of them. Contemporary can change what they want at their entire will but decades later we are dead and the new generations will return back to the origins no matter if Bill and Google likes or not.

rgds thanks
Carlos Martins
www.domainsinternational.net

blastfromthepast
11th January 2010, 12:43 PM
without asking to own people what they want to do.

Well, we have asked what the people do. They type without accents. The statistics show that.

domainshouse
11th January 2010, 01:43 PM
In the ancient times diet of people were roots and vegetables, then animals. Nowadays people are retunring back to its roots eating more vegatables and preferably organic ones. Pharma corporations said "why not to consume what people consumes?"
The corporations govern the consumers and mostly are eating what they say to eat and place on the supermarkets and shopping centers. The backywards are now for barbecues not to observe plants or plant organic seeds. That´s what the people do.

blastfromthepast
11th January 2010, 01:47 PM
In the ancient times

In ancient times the land lay covered in forest, where from ages long past dwelt the Spirits of the Gods.

Back then, man and domain lived in harmony, but as times went by, most of the great domains were registered, those that weren't registered were taken by gigantic beasts, that owed their allegiance to the great Forest Spirit.

domainshouse
11th January 2010, 02:12 PM
Gigantic beats as Bill Gates, Google, Microsoft and the Yahoos. You area absolutely right but we keep our português, cão, coração, fornicação, and és (es simply do not means nothing for portuguese) and others with an ´or ~.

idndrive
10th August 2013, 10:39 AM
i have eu.com [korean]
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