How many names do people have now and in what languages??

[IDNCowboy]

??

[bramiozo]

I am a small player with 55 names, french, spanish, german, russian, arabic, chinese and japanese.

[Edwin]

12 IDNs, all Japanese (contrast to 3,000+ "regular" domains)

[sarcle]

In Inds I have 400 now. Mostly Japanese and Russian.

[Rubber Duck]

We currently have about 2500, but plan to drop about a third this year in addition to about 100 we dropped last year. A domain is going to have to be very special to stay in the Chinese Domains Ltd Portfolio.

Languages in Order of Importance, Chinese, Japanese, Arabic, Russian, Hindi, Urdu, Bengla, Telegu, Thai, Punjabi, Kannada, Gujarati, Tamil, Marathi, Malayam.

Some of the smaller ones may not appear that interesting, but if you can get some of the top ten keywords by getting in just as soon as it is feasible, there is a good chance of a handsome payback.

As you aware there are quite a few players that have entered the market recently and many confide in me. I know of one investor that has picked up over 500 names in less than a couple of weeks.

My advice is to get what you can whilst it is available, but monitor your portfolios for deadwood, as we will all have some. If you end up with right portfolio, it doesn't really matter that much in the scheme of things if you drop upto 50% of your initial registrations, probably makes more sense than sitting on your hands.

Best Regards
Dave Wrixon

[touchring]

I know of one investor that has picked up over 500 names in less than a couple of weeks.

Wait a minute, bought or registered? If he can register 500 names in a couple of weeks, i'll take off my hat to him.

[Rubber Duck]

I know of one investor that has picked up over 500 names in less than a couple of weeks.

Wait a minute, bought or registered? If he can register 500 names in a couple of weeks, i'll take off my hat to him.


Undoubtedly both and serious resources are being thrown at the problem.

Best Regards
Dave Wrixon

[IDNCowboy]

We currently have about 2500, but plan to drop about a third this year in addition to about 100 we dropped last year. A domain is going to have to be very special to stay in the Chinese Domains Ltd Portfolio.

Languages in Order of Importance, Chinese, Japanese, Arabic, Russian, Hindi, Urdu, Bengla, Telegu, Thai, Punjabi, Kannada, Gujarati, Tamil, Marathi, Malayam.

Some of the smaller ones may not appear that interesting, but if you can get some of the top ten keywords by getting in just as soon as it is feasible, there is a good chance of a handsome payback.

As you aware there are quite a few players that have entered the market recently and many confide in me. I know of one investor that has picked up over 500 names in less than a couple of weeks.

My advice is to get what you can whilst it is available, but monitor your portfolios for deadwood, as we will all have some. If you end up with right portfolio, it doesn't really matter that much in the scheme of things if you drop upto 50% of your initial registrations, probably makes more sense than sitting on your hands.

Best Regards
Dave Wrixon

most of the arabic names i've found have between 10,000-200,000 or 400,000 results in google which doesn't seem like alot (most of the drops in the 200k range)
where are you doing arabic overture and what do you consider a good google for that language.

[touchring]

There's no Arabic OVT, just use US OVT, i've got 165 names, 30+ of them are Arabic with US OVT ranging from 2000 to 85,000. 40% of my domains are major cities/country domains.

[Rubber Duck]

most of the arabic names i've found have between 10,000-200,000 or 400,000 results in google which doesn't seem like alot (most of the drops in the 200k range)
where are you doing arabic overture and what do you consider a good google for that language.


Firstly, I think the primary measure of Arabic domains should be the US Overture Tool.
Good Arabic names show up well here and this measure is much more significant than Google.

We have Google Scores ranging beyond the 10 Million mark, but we also a domain with Google as low as 14K with Overture score in excess of 500.

Generally Overture starts to kick in around the 50K mark so if you are using Google as a criteria for initial appraisal of drops, then that is a sensible level.

Best Regards
Dave Wrixon

[Rubber Duck]

There's no Arabic OVT, just use US OVT, i've got 165 names, 30+ of them are Arabic with US OVT ranging from 2000 to 85,000. 40% of my domains are major cities/country domains.


Sounds as though your best bet would be to get Touchring to email you his dot coms, I don't think he even bothers with dot net, so you might pick up a few crackers!

Best Regards
Dave Wrixon

[IDNCowboy]

What ovt and search rankings would ppl use for:

Hebrew
Chinese
Japanese
Russian
Korean
etc

[Rubber Duck]

What ovt and search rankings would ppl use for:

Hebrew
Chinese
Japanese
Russian
Korean
etc




Japanese and Korean both have their own Overture Tools. As these measure the local market directly, I would think 10K should be a reasonable baseline, but a lot depends on the market potential for the term. Overture bid tool should also be used in evaluation.

Where there is no Local Overture Tool things are much more difficult. None at all might be acceptable if you have a Commercially oriented keyword with sufficient Google to confirm that you have a term that is commonly used.

I personally don't do Hebrew but I suspect it is similar to Arabic and Russian, where you should use US Overture.

Simplified Chinese may be better addressed using searched keyword links in 3721.com until the Local Overture comes back online, although I am having a few problems with this as well. Don't know whether it is my system or their site. If you can get the search of terms on the right to come up with terms on the left, then the little figure in red at the top left is the one you are after. If it is 1200 then you have struck gold, less than 100 and you have struck out!

Best Regards
Dave Wrixon

[IDNCowboy]

how does 3721.com work

[a2zofb2b]

22 IDNs, all Indian Languages ( 13 Hindi, 7 Tamil , 2 Marathi) (contrast to 135 .co.in & .in domains and total of 300+ domains)

[IDNCowboy]

I've been able to find every overture tool except the one for Korea ;-) .. Can anyone point me in the right direction.

[gammascalper]

Jeff

url variable setting is mkt=kr

[IDNCowboy]

variable say what? :(

[Olney]

Look at the top of the forum,
I made the site so it's actually useful...

[IDNCowboy]

What ovt and search rankings would ppl use for:

Hebrew
Chinese
Japanese
Russian
Korean
etc




Japanese and Korean both have their own Overture Tools. As these measure the local market directly, I would think 10K should be a reasonable baseline, but a lot depends on the market potential for the term. Overture bid tool should also be used in evaluation.

Where there is no Local Overture Tool things are much more difficult. None at all might be acceptable if you have a Commercially oriented keyword with sufficient Google to confirm that you have a term that is commonly used.

I personally don't do Hebrew but I suspect it is similar to Arabic and Russian, where you should use US Overture.

Simplified Chinese may be better addressed using searched keyword links in 3721.com until the Local Overture comes back online, although I am having a few problems with this as well. Don't know whether it is my system or their site. If you can get the search of terms on the right to come up with terms on the left, then the little figure in red at the top left is the one you are after. If it is 1200 then you have struck gold, less than 100 and you have struck out!

Best Regards
Dave Wrixon




10k baseline even for .jp? :P and this comes from a man who claims he only regs 1 M + ovt heheh :P

well i guess once the 100k + names are gone then wego all the way down to the 10k ones ;)

[Rubber Duck]

10k baseline even for .jp? :P and this comes from a man who claims he only regs 1 M + ovt heheh :P

well i guess once the 100k + names are gone then wego all the way down to the 10k ones ;)


Well my perspective comes at least in part from the fact that I was in this market when no non-Latin terms would give any kind of an Overture Scores and the only scripts supported by Yahoo were Japanese and Chinese.

The one thing I do know, is that when all the answers are out there, the speculative opportunity is gone. The key to this game is judgement. You can use a Forum like this to try and gauge what others are up to, but they won't tell you everything, some will even deliberately deceive. You either have the wit to indentify the opportunities and the balls to act or you don't!

Best Regards
Dave Wrixon

[touchring]

What ovt and search rankings would ppl use for:

Hebrew
Chinese
Japanese
Russian
Korean
etc



Japanese and Korean both have their own Overture Tools. As these measure the local market directly, I would think 10K should be a reasonable baseline, but a lot depends on the market potential for the term. Overture bid tool should also be used in evaluation.

Where there is no Local Overture Tool things are much more difficult. None at all might be acceptable if you have a Commercially oriented keyword with sufficient Google to confirm that you have a term that is commonly used.

I personally don't do Hebrew but I suspect it is similar to Arabic and Russian, where you should use US Overture.

Simplified Chinese may be better addressed using searched keyword links in 3721.com until the Local Overture comes back online, although I am having a few problems with this as well. Don't know whether it is my system or their site. If you can get the search of terms on the right to come up with terms on the left, then the little figure in red at the top left is the one you are after. If it is 1200 then you have struck gold, less than 100 and you have struck out!

Best Regards
Dave Wrixon




10k baseline even for .jp? :P and this comes from a man who claims he only regs 1  M + ovt heheh :P

well i guess once the 100k + names are gone then wego all the way down to the 10k ones ;)



OVT isn't everything.  One of the most highly valued latin domains, are gambling related, and have low OVT for their IDN forms.

扑克, Poker in Chinese, doesn't even have an OVT.  The latin form, poker.com might even fetch 10 million dollars (which is small compared to the $2 billion people spend to build a real casino).

A lot of 100K names are worth only reg value or $xx (mostly are trademarks or names of websites, etc) - i've found many 100k+ names and decided not to register them (Of cos, if you are just a reseller, you can always register them and try to sell for $xxx to a novice).

Yesterday, i've even bounced on a 400K+ OVT term and i am still considering whether to take it.  Myself would only register domains for long term investment, so if i'm selling any domain, you can be sure that they are domains that i will actually keep.

[Rubber Duck]

Couple of plays on the Poker thing:

扑克游戏

扑克网站

What do you think?

Dave

[touchring]

Anywhere between 2-10 year's type-in revenue.  I believe that the same rules to latin.com will apply to IDNs in the medium to long term.