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kenne
16th May 2006, 06:14 PM
price $12k

装修.com doesn't look much, but it's the premier term that defines an $50 Billion sales industry. In China, most houses/apartments are sold with no furnishing, not even plumbing, electric wires or flooring. So vast home improvement industry sprung up to make them livable. Typical middle class spending on furnishing (excluding furnitures/linens) is around $6k-$10k if not more (my estimate).

To think the other day I sold a related popular term for $30. My brain went on vacation, but congratulations to the buyer, and of course a pat on myself and Giant (the seller :)

Explorer
16th May 2006, 06:26 PM
Congrats! The prices are going higher...

gammascalper
16th May 2006, 06:36 PM
That is a great term!

Grats!

I envision a Home Depot in every city :-)

Wait -- IKEA beat them... http://www.chinabusinessreview.com/public/0407/company_profile.html

bwhhisc
16th May 2006, 06:54 PM
To think the other day I sold a related popular term for $30.

Kenne, was that for 家居装修.net house decor/repair.

kenne
16th May 2006, 06:55 PM
Yes. Hope you will enjoy it :)

touchring
16th May 2006, 06:55 PM
I would translate that into "Renovations.com". This term is worth way more than 12K, and as you said, homes are sold with only concrete furnishing!

Massive market...newly weds borrow heavily to renovate their homes.

Great buy!!

Giant
16th May 2006, 07:03 PM
The whole $12K I already spent. Congrats to the smart buyer really :-)

Explorer
16th May 2006, 07:09 PM
The whole $12K I already spent.

How far are you from Macau?

bwhhisc
16th May 2006, 07:09 PM
[QUOTE=Giant] The whole $12K I already spent. /QUOTE]


Did you buy idns!

kenne
16th May 2006, 07:10 PM
I would translate that into "Renovations.com". This term is worth way more than 12K, and as you said, homes are sold with only concrete furnishing!

Massive market...newly weds borrow heavily to renovate their homes.

Great buy!!

Yes, it's a mix of Renovation/Home Improvement/Interior Decoration/What not. It's huge right now, and it will be huge in 10 years, as many of the poor quality buildings built today will need more renovation.

Thanks :)

touchring
16th May 2006, 07:14 PM
Yes, it's a mix of Renovation/Home Improvement/Interior Decoration/What not. It's huge right now, and it will be huge in 10 years, as many of the poor quality buildings built today will need more renovation.

Thanks :)


Definitely great buy, i thought it is coincidental that a typical renovation for a 3 bedroom apt is also around 100k RMB or 12k USD.

Giant
16th May 2006, 07:21 PM
How far are you from Macau?

I am more closer to Las Vegas. But no, I don't gamble (in casino), I like business ventures instead.

[QUOTE=Giant] The whole $12K I already spent. /QUOTE]


Did you buy idns!

regged a few, but I spent most of it on other business.

IDNCowboy
16th May 2006, 11:59 PM
Very nice sale ;-)


What made you pick the .com over the .cn? (the .com is very very nice btw)
Did you ever try to contact the .cn owner? Did he want to sell?

As a citizen of China did you believe the .com is stronger? (just seeing your view of .cn vs .com)

kenne
17th May 2006, 12:49 AM
There's some FUD surrounding .cn registration, definitely more restrictions on transfer, individual ownership etc, and less well documented and standardized court process in cases of conflict.

I like .cn domains a lot, but probably would pay less than for equivalent .com. That's just personal choice. Other people could easily make the opposite choice.

Giant
17th May 2006, 01:20 AM
I did reg some IDN.cn 2 years ago using my friends company name. I did not use my own comapny name to reg because I am a foreigner. The rules for .CN regs are a bit lax now, but I still feel a bit more comfortable with .COM regs.

I believe both IDN.COM and IDN.CN will prosper in a near future. I believe the Chinese government will do something to help IDN.cn, but only in a short period of time, because it will not be in China's long term interest in its over-all strategy. In fact, IDN.com will help Chinese business a lot, probably more than IDN.cn can, but you need to have wisdom to really understand the reason.

The value of a Dot Com is always higher, figure out why for yourself :-)

Olney
17th May 2006, 08:35 AM
Where was it sold? The Chinese Forum?

Bigtm
17th May 2006, 09:57 AM
Wonderful Job !!

Rubber Duck
17th May 2006, 10:08 AM
Nice work Kenne. Looks like a good price to me.

Big deal for Chinese IDN and a big deal for IDN in general.

It was only a matter of time before I lost my World Crown for an Asian IDN to Giant. He really does have some fantastic names.

It will be interesting to see if the 6 figure deal Mulligan is rumouring materialises.



price $12k

装修.com doesn't look much, but it's the premier term that defines an $50 Billion sales industry. In China, most houses/apartments are sold with no furnishing, not even plumbing, electric wires or flooring. So vast home improvement industry sprung up to make them livable. Typical middle class spending on furnishing (excluding furnitures/linens) is around $6k-$10k if not more (my estimate).

To think the other day I sold a related popular term for $30. My brain went on vacation, but congratulations to the buyer, and of course a pat on myself and Giant (the seller :)

alpha
17th May 2006, 10:24 AM
Nice work Kenne. Looks like a good price to me.

Big deal for Chinese IDN and a big deal for IDN in general.

It was only a matter of time before I lost my World Crown for an Asian IDN to Giant. He really does have some fantastic names.

It will be interesting to see if the 6 figure deal Mulligan is rumouring materialises.

6 figure. wow. I must have missed that rumour. What do you know of the rumour?

Rubber Duck
17th May 2006, 11:58 AM
6 figure. wow. I must have missed that rumour. What do you know of the rumour?

http://www.dnforum.com/f17/google-number-cn-domain-names-surpass-com-domain-names-china-pacific-epoch-subscription-2-thread-151413.html

alpha
17th May 2006, 12:04 PM
http://www.dnforum.com/f17/google-number-cn-domain-names-surpass-com-domain-names-china-pacific-epoch-subscription-2-thread-151413.html

oh - it was over there - nah don't go over to the darkside that often nowadays.

As is customary with all juicy rumours, you need some factless speculation - so...

would you care to have a guess at the language, and the genre?

Rubber Duck
17th May 2006, 12:12 PM
oh - it was over there - nah don't go over to the darkside that often nowadays.

As is customary with all juicy rumours, you need some factless speculation - so...

would you care to have a guess at the language, and the genre?

Well start with the source. I don't think Mulligan is buying at that level, so I would guess he is either selling or brokering. I would guess the former.

At this stage I would suggest that it can only Japanese, Chinese or German.

If you look at what he is into, then it could be just about anything. As for a specific domain you might start by looking at his recent drops.

Giant
17th May 2006, 12:57 PM
Where was it sold? The Chinese Forum?

It was sold right here at this forum. The negotiation was initially for a lower price domain, but later concluded on this one.

http://www.idnforums.com/forums/2177-spending-%246000-a.html

domainstosell
17th May 2006, 03:44 PM
Did we ever learn what the "Newspaper Subscription" domain went for? That had to be a high-priced sale... Just curious.

sarcle
17th May 2006, 04:09 PM
Did we ever learn what the "Newspaper Subscription" domain went for? That had to be a high-priced sale... Just curious.

Just take a look on idntools.net in the sale section you'll see it.

domainstosell
17th May 2006, 04:12 PM
Nice sale!

Rubber Duck
17th May 2006, 04:15 PM
Yes, and well done Bram, it looks like Duke has got competition. There are quite a few there which I had missed!

bramiozo
17th May 2006, 08:45 PM
Thanks, scanning for sales is my almost daily routine...pity the tools aren't used the last days....

bwhhisc
17th May 2006, 09:23 PM
Thanks, scanning for sales is my almost daily routine...pity the tools aren't used the last days....

Nice sales report Bram, tools probably slow as everyone buying was focused in on the Japanese and Chinese "real estate" boom!

bramiozo
17th May 2006, 10:58 PM
Interesting development, I can remember the sale of a real estate related idn to an enduser some time ago, maybe this is related. Asian real estate is potential gold, especially in the growing coastal area's, this sparked my initial interest in the Chinese market.

I hope my top-100 list is not in vain, trust is difficult to gain and easy to lose, that much is certain.

thegenius1
17th May 2006, 11:03 PM
Interesting development, I can remember the sale of a real estate related idn to an enduser some time ago, maybe this is related. Asian real estate is potential gold
.

Yes during my realestate venture i have seen atleast 3 whois's with a Real Estate company on it , If you can provide us some of the info Of the Sale to the End User you can drop it off in this Thread : http://www.dnforum.com/f17/google-nu...ad-151413.html

shearyadi
24th September 2006, 11:15 PM
I would translate that into "Renovations.com". This term is worth way more than 12K, and as you said, homes are sold with only concrete furnishing!

Massive market...newly weds borrow heavily to renovate their homes.

Great buy!!
Yup, renovations or repair would be the appropriate translation, but good deal anyway! This 家园改善 probably the closest translation for HomeImprovement in Chinese simplified.

bwhhisc
25th September 2006, 01:01 AM
Yup, renovations or repair would be the appropriate translation, but good deal anyway! This 家园改善 probably the closest translation for HomeImprovement in Chinese simplified.

Here is comparative google trends of both terms, noticed you registered 家园改善 just yesterday.
http://www.google.com/trends?q=%E8%A3%85%E4%BF%AE%2C++%E5%AE%B6%E5%9B%AD%E6%94%B9%E5%96%84&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all

Your term "家园改善" gets only 3,800 google pages.
Home Renovation "装修" gets 47,200,000.

touchring
25th September 2006, 05:16 AM
Yup, renovations or repair would be the appropriate translation, but good deal anyway! This 家园改善 probably the closest translation for HomeImprovement in Chinese simplified.


Isn't renovation=homeimprovements?

Perhaps renovation also applies to offices and commercial buildings.

shearyadi
25th September 2006, 09:38 AM
:) Right, I register it just only yesterday and I only want to make things clear in terms of correct translation, this is going a bit out of contents when showing google trends and search results.

No offense guys, just want to make friends and share the knowledge. It's a good thing for everyone (Buyers) to know what he's buying and it's also good thing for anyone (sellers) to tell the truth about what he's selling. Just that ;)

bwhhisc
25th September 2006, 11:18 AM
:) Right, I register it just only yesterday and I only want to make things clear in terms of correct translation, this is going a bit out of contents when showing google trends and search results. No offense guys, just want to make friends and share the knowledge. It's a good thing for everyone (Buyers) to know what he's buying and it's also good thing for anyone (sellers) to tell the truth about what he's selling. Just that ;)

First welcome to the forum. No offense taken, but sibce you opened a 4 month old sale thread to compare your registration to 装修, just pointing out that statistically the two terms are not of same popularity or value. That does not mean your is not a good one.

Please feel free to share any information you wish. We are all here to learn, and there are still some good idns to be registered. Again, welcome.

shearyadi
25th September 2006, 12:21 PM
Thanks and first of all, sorry if this thread was 4 months old, I just found this one interesting and to be honest I'm a newbie with this IDN stuff. I will learn alot with all of the IDN masters in here.

bwhhisc
25th September 2006, 12:41 PM
Thanks and first of all, sorry if this thread was 4 months old, I just found this one interesting and to be honest I'm a newbie with this IDN stuff. I will learn alot with all of the IDN masters in here.

There is no problem bringing an old thread back up...and good for you for using the "history" here to research from. You might find some older threads are locked but you can still reference back to them.

Nice to have a reminder of the original "Home Improvement" sale...that was an exciting day for idners. It is said to be among the very top of Chinese commercial IDNs by native speakers.

And your not too late to get in on IDNs...but the window is going to close fast when IE7 comes is released as an automatic update. That will give Microsoft customers (80% of market worldwide) the ability to resolve IDNs and unicode.