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DktoInc
13th July 2012, 04:30 AM
IDNs are finaly starting to get some attention!

http://www.pbs.org/mediashift/2012/07/how-new-internet-domain-names-can-shake-up-your-web-browsing-experience194.html

in one form or another

chrisofmel
13th July 2012, 03:09 PM
IDNs are finaly starting to get some attention!

http://www.pbs.org/mediashift/2012/07/how-new-internet-domain-names-can-shake-up-your-web-browsing-experience194.html

in one form or another

i found this quote interesting.

"For Isaac Mao, China's Internet expert and pioneering blogger, new domains in the form of romanized Chinese words (i.e., .wang) are promising, but IDNs, not so much. "I see very negative responses from local Internet users on Chinese-language domain names," Mao said. For Mao, the foremost issue is that IDNs are a departure from the basic domain structure and thus introduce a "new firewall" to prevent border exploration on the Internet.''

555
13th July 2012, 03:12 PM
My guess is that he is referring to either .cn or .gongsi if not both assuming he was properly quoted. Maybe Verisign knows what it is doing after all.

squirrel
13th July 2012, 04:32 PM
My guess is that he is referring to either .cn or .gongsi if not both assuming he was properly quoted. Maybe Verisign knows what it is doing after all.

Right. Otherwise I don't know what "firewall" he is referring to

alpha
13th July 2012, 04:33 PM
i found this quote interesting.

"For Isaac Mao, China's Internet expert and pioneering blogger, new domains in the form of romanized Chinese words (i.e., .wang) are promising, but IDNs, not so much. "I see very negative responses from local Internet users on Chinese-language domain names," Mao said. For Mao, the foremost issue is that IDNs are a departure from the basic domain structure and thus introduce a "new firewall" to prevent border exploration on the Internet.''

for a nation supposedly uber proud and protective of their culture and language, I find his comments very odd - he has afterall just advocated for bastardized Chinese/English

IdnHost
13th July 2012, 04:43 PM
some decent exposure. good things.

chrisofmel
13th July 2012, 06:40 PM
Right. Otherwise I don't know what "firewall" he is referring to

i was thinking he was just saying that the language itself would create a self imposed firewall.




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"IDNs no doubt limit free entry to websites due to inherent language barriers. For example, those who cannot read or write Asian languages like Chinese, Japanese, or Korean, would have trouble accessing websites under potential new IDNs such as .政府, .삼성 and, .ポイント. This language barrier could encourage a new kind of censorship from the outside-in: Those who do not know the language of the IDNs will not be able to explore the content under those IDNs."

Rubber Duck
13th July 2012, 06:52 PM
Yes, it is the old idiotic ASCII domainer argument that if you have Latin domain names then miraculously the entire Interwebs spontaneously Talksin Tongues!


i was thinking he was just saying that the language itself would create a self imposed firewall.




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"IDNs no doubt limit free entry to websites due to inherent language barriers. For example, those who cannot read or write Asian languages like Chinese, Japanese, or Korean, would have trouble accessing websites under potential new IDNs such as .政府, .삼성 and, .ポイント. This language barrier could encourage a new kind of censorship from the outside-in: Those who do not know the language of the IDNs will not be able to explore the content under those IDNs."

bumblebee man
13th July 2012, 07:52 PM
Yes, it is the old idiotic ASCII domainer argument that if you have Latin domain names then miraculously the entire Interwebs spontaneously Talksin Tongues!

Yeah, we are hearing the same old shit over and over again. Of all arguments against IDNs this is by far the dumbest.

bwhhisc
13th July 2012, 08:54 PM
Yeah, we are hearing the same old shit over and over again. Of all arguments against IDNs this is by far the dumbest.

The market will speak for itself. Far too many internet users that don't read or write English who will welcome the "choice".

Drewbert
14th July 2012, 12:26 AM
Yes, it's really backarsewards logic he's using there. The old "domain names in foreign languages will chop the interwebs up into inaccessible portions" argument.

Doh.

DktoInc
14th July 2012, 06:13 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Mao

Isaac Mao

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Jump to: navigation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Mao#mw-head), search (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Mao#p-search)
This is a Chinese name (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_name); the family name (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_surname) is Mao.
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Isaac Mao


Isaac Mao (simplified Chinese (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simplified_Chinese_characters): 毛向辉; traditional Chinese (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traditional_Chinese_characters): 毛向輝; pinyin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinyin): Máo Xiànghuī) is a venture capitalist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venture_capitalist), software (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software) architect, and social media researcher from the People's Republic of China (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Republic_of_China). He is also known for co-founding of CNBlogs.org, doing research in social learning (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_learning_theory) and for developing the philosophy of Sharism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharism). He is the director of the Social Brain Foundation[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Mao#cite_note-0) and a vice president of the United Capital Investment Group[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Mao#cite_note-1) (2004-2008), and fellow to Berkman Center for Internet and Society (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berkman_Center_for_Internet_and_Society).

Rubber Duck
14th July 2012, 09:21 AM
A Legend in his own Lunchtime!

DktoInc
14th July 2012, 07:13 PM
The legend got an invite, hopefully he'll be here for lunch.

chrisofmel
14th July 2012, 10:08 PM
The legend got an invite, hopefully he'll be here for lunch.

nice, hope he shows up here

blastfromthepast
15th July 2012, 07:05 PM
What kind of Chinese name is Isaac anyways? He even writes it in Latin on the title of his own blog, http://www.isaacmao.com/ because he dosen't seem to know how to write it in Chinese.

mulligan
15th July 2012, 07:15 PM
What kind of Chinese name is Isaac anyways? He even writes it in Latin on the title of his own blog, http://www.isaacmao.com/ because he dosen't seem to know how to write it in Chinese.It's hip dontcha know

blackpower
15th July 2012, 07:34 PM
What kind of Chinese name is Isaac anyways? He even writes it in Latin on the title of his own blog, http://www.isaacmao.com/ because he dosen't seem to know how to write it in Chinese.

Probably trying to blend in... Or may be his theory is that westerners can't pronounce chinese names so they'll call him isaak?

sbe18
16th July 2012, 04:02 AM
Every language will have its Schwartz...
Every language will be able to avoid a firewall.

blastfromthepast
16th July 2012, 04:28 AM
Has this he joined the forum?