.BIT

[Jay]

There's been some interest from members here in .bit domains.

FYI dotbit.me (http://dotbit.me) are now accepting paypal payments and are offering half price on registrations until the end of January.

[blastfromthepast]

If you use registrars for .bit like the one above, then they technically own and register the domain, and not you?

[DktoInc]

idnfdotbit

[Jay]

If you use registrars for .bit like the one above, then they technically own and register the domain, and not you?

Yes, this is true. You can transfer the domains away at any time for free, but I guess there is an element of trust involved that they won't run off with them in the meantime!

[Rubber Duck]

A it like the coins if you ask me.

[Ben]

dotbit.me makes it easier, sure, but you have to trust them and they charge a big premium (even at half price) over doing it yourself.

Anyone else picked up some IDN .bits?

[blastfromthepast]

I see more value in IDN TLDs using the distributed dsn namecoin provides, rather than .bit itself. Any word on registering actual TLDs using namecoin?

[Rubber Duck]

Just remember me as the sad fool who could not see the value in cryptocurrency.:lol:

[DktoInc]

Just remember me as the sad fool who could not see the value in cryptocurrency.:lol:
cryptocurrency, smartphones, social media, America.......

[Ben]

Well really the d/ namespace in Namecoin does not dictate any particular TLD: names are stored in the blockchain without a TLD. ".bit" has just been chosen by convention, but one can make a DNS server with any TLD for it they like.

[mchold]

i have SafeBit#cn
is it good news?

[Rubber Duck]

cryptocurrency, smartphones, social media, America.......

Smart phones fine, just not those stupid little overpriced things with weird operating system and a screen too small to see anything.

[blastfromthepast]

Well really the d/ namespace in Namecoin does not dictate any particular TLD: names are stored in the blockchain without a TLD. ".bit" has just been chosen by convention, but one can make a DNS server with any TLD for it they like.

If names are stored in the blockchain without a TLD, is it possible to add one?

[Ben]

If names are stored in the blockchain without a TLD, is it possible to add one?

Yes, in simplistic terms you can think of Namecoin as an arbitrary key/value store, so you can put anything you like in it. This gives it many potential applications (https://dot-bit.org/Use_cases), domains just being one of them.

You can create your own namespaces, adding TLDs, whatever you like and Namecoin itself won't care, but what you then need is software (DNS servers, etc.) built around it to utilize that.

Currently most of the interest lies in the d/ namespace (https://github.com/namecoin/namecoin/wiki/Domain-Name-Specification-2.0) so that's what people are building their software around.

[Rubber Duck]

Yes, in simplistic terms you can think of Namecoin as an arbitrary key/value store, so you can put anything you like in it. This gives it many potential applications (https://dot-bit.org/Use_cases), domains just being one of them.

You can create your own namespaces, adding TLDs, whatever you like and Namecoin itself won't care, but what you then need is software (DNS servers, etc.) built around it to utilize that.

Currently most of the interest lies in the d/ namespace (https://github.com/namecoin/namecoin/wiki/Domain-Name-Specification-2.0) so that's what people are building their software around.

Am I the only one whose brain hurts?

[Wot]

Smart phones fine, just not those stupid little overpriced things with weird operating system and a screen too small to see anything.

A big problem for the likes of myself with dumb fingers and tiny little keypads! :)

[Jay]

Anyone else picked up some IDN .bits?

I picked up some Chinese ones.

[Ben]

I picked up some Chinese ones.

Me too. I got 汽车.bit, 酒店.bit, 旅行.bit. :)

[Jay]

Well I figure if anyone needs an unregulated, anonymous internet, it's the Chinese.

Me too. I got 汽车.bit, 酒店.bit, 旅行.bit. :)

Top names!

[mchold]

Me too. I got 汽车.bit, 酒店.bit, 旅行.bit. :)
You are Genius

[Ben]

I'm selling videos.bit at https://dot-bit.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=1492 if anyone is interested, it's the first public sale of a Namecoin name that I know of.

[DktoInc]

without the IDNA2008 compliance, it's a good place for dingbats.

[mdw]

Yes, this is true. You can transfer the domains away at any time for free, but I guess there is an element of trust involved that they won't run off with them in the meantime!

Sorry did not see this thread.

Jay, I wouldn't use that registrar service, it's relatively very expensive - I thought it was like $5 or $10, and hand regging mine were < $0.10

And transferring away is no more free than the registration itself, both have a builtin transaction cost (pennies) which prevents others from spamming the blockchain.

There may also be the added risk that you don't gain control over your domain name since they actually are the equivalent of the registrant. This is what I believe, it may be wrong. I'll reg one with them and transfer to a QT wallet, that'll be my first transfer!

[mdw]

Anyone else picked up some IDN .bits?

Yeah I went in and regged some Thai names like กรุงเทพ, saw 東京 and Москва and such were gone and lost interest.

The IDNs in .BIT are still not usable as far as I can figure, except to those few of us who have manually set up our local networks to resolve them.

For ASCII, there's a nice proxy at .BIT.PE for those who do not make .BIT visible on their computer or local networks. Your *.BIT will resolve for everyone using DNS if you tell them to append a '.PE'

so if you setup a site at IDNF.bit , then anyone can access it at http://IDNF.bit.pe

Anyone looking for a project? A similar proxy is needed for IDN domains.

[Ben]

Yeah I went in and regged some Thai names like กรุงเทพ, saw 東京 and Москва and such were gone and lost interest.

I picked up 東京.bit a couple of months ago, and no one had owned it before me, so you must have been pretty close to getting it. Москва on the other hand was registered since block 37564, which is a few years ago.

[Jay]

Jay, I wouldn't use that registrar service, it's relatively very expensive - I thought it was like $5 or $10, and hand regging mine were < $0.10

Up until a week ago I had trouble accessing crypto funds, so I purchased .bits using their service. Since then I've transferred them away to a nmc wallet. Much cheaper and secure as you say.

I went in and regged some Thai names like กรุงเทพ, saw 東京 and Москва and such were gone and lost interest.

There are still top keywords available. I registered 投资.bit (investment), 软件.bit (software), 电影.bit (movies), 搜索.bit (search) and 购物.bit (shopping).

[blastfromthepast]

Let's see a sale.

[zenmarketing]

http://www.reddit.com/r/Namecoin/comments/1w6w6e/videosbit_sells_for_11_nmc_at_auction/

looks like videos.bit sold for 11 NMC, roughly ~$50 USD

I'm still trying to figure out what the heck this is (feel like an old man)

[Jay]

http://www.reddit.com/r/Namecoin/comments/1w6w6e/videosbit_sells_for_11_nmc_at_auction/

looks like videos.bit sold for 11 NMC, roughly ~$50 USD

I'm still trying to figure out what the heck this is (feel like an old man)

That was me. I think that might have been the first ever NMC auction.

It's all very speculative. But I can see a need for domains that operate off the grid, so maybe one day they will have value. Early days.

[Rubber Duck]

That was me. I think that might have been the first ever NMC auction.

It's all very speculative. But I can see a need for domains that operate off the grid, so maybe one day they will have value. Early days.

Just admit it. You were stoned!

[Jay]

Just admit it. You were stoned!

Its a fine line between stupid and genius.

[mdw]

Its a fine line between stupid and genius.

Stupid people don't *know* they're stupid. I know this because I'm smart.

[Ben]

FreeSpeechMe (http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/freespeechme-the-anti-censorship-anti-hijacking-free-software-dot-bit-plug-in) looks interesting.

[Edit] Just found https://www.npmjs.org/package/dnschain, very nice.

[Ben]

http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-grothoff-iesg-special-use-p2p-names/?include_text=1

[mdw]

great links Ben, rep++

love that IETF draft, although I was unaware of people using .gnu
It's nice to see official recognition of TOR and i2p extensions!

dnschain project for running your own server to help resolve .BIT domains looks interesting too. Instead of hacking on bind to patch in support for .BIT, they chose to writer a better version. Awesome!

Also I noticed an identity mgmt system registering a lot of id/name pairs in namecoin. It doesn't make sense to me, but nice to see people playing around on the blockchain.