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bwhhisc
8th January 2015, 05:41 PM
From domainincite.com, please post at comment section at domainincite if any Chinese speakers read anything in the Chinese media on this (or can translate anything from Hu Yi Global Registry), and can add any information to Kevin's article.

http://domainincite.com/

QUOTE FROM DOMAININCITE- "The new massive number two new gTLD has me paralyzed with confusion

Kevin Murphy, January 8, 2015, Domain Registries

The Chinese-script gTLD .网址 powered to the number two spot in the new gTLD rankings by zone file size this week, but it’s doing some things very strangely.

.网址 is Chinese for “.site”, “.url” or “.webaddress”.

The registry is Hu Yi Global, ostensibly a Hong Kong-based registrar but, judging by IANA’s records, actually part of its Beijing-based back-end Knet.

I’m going to come out and admit it: even after a few hours research I still don’t know a heck of a lot about these guys.
The language barrier has got me, and the data is just weird.

These are the things I can tell you:
•.网址 has 352,727 domains in its zone file today, up by about a quarter of a million names since the start of the week.
•The names all seem to be using knet.cn name servers
•I don’t think any of them resolve on the web. I tried loads and couldn’t find so much as a parking page. Google is only aware of about eight resolving .网址 pages.
•They all seem to have been registered via the same Chinese registrar, which goes by the name of ZDNS (also providing DNS for the TLD itself).
•They all seem to be registered with “nameinfo@knet.com” in the email address field for the registrant, admin and technical contacts in Whois, even when the registrants are different.
•That’s even true for dozens of famous trademarks I checked — whether it’s the Bank of China or Alexander McQueen, they’re all using nameinfo@knet.cn as their email address.
•I’ve been unable to find a Whois record with a completed Registrant Organization field.
•Nobody seems to be selling these things. ZDNS (officially Internet Domain Name System Beijing Engineering Research Center) is apparently the only registrar to sell any so far and its web site doesn’t say a damn thing about .网址. The registry’s official nic.网址 site doesn’t even have any information about how to buy one either.
•ZDNS hasn’t sold a single domain in any other gTLD.
•News reports in China, linked to from the registry’s web site, boast about how .网址 is the biggest IDN TLD out there.

So what’s going on here? Are we looking at a Chinese .xyz? A bunch of registry-reserved names? A seriously borked Whois?

Don’t expect any answers from DI today on this one. I’ve been staring at Chinese characters for hours and my brain is addled.

I give up. You tell me. END QUOTE FROM EDITOR AT DOMAININCITE

123
9th January 2015, 09:14 AM
there is probably some kind of stuffing/ number inflating going on..

bwhhisc
9th January 2015, 07:00 PM
POSTED AT DOMAINIINCITE COMMENTS:
Hu Yi is no longer the registry operator as effective 3 December 2014, the registry agreement was assigned to KNET. See https://www.icann.org/resources/agreement/xn--ses554g-2014-01-16-en.

bwhhisc
9th January 2015, 07:01 PM
Another person reports that he believe these were "bundled" with other Chinese for existing owners.

Wot
10th January 2015, 12:40 AM
POSTED AT DOMAINIINCITE COMMENTS:
Hu Yi is no longer the registry operator as effective 3 December 2014, the registry agreement was assigned to KNET. See https://www.icann.org/resources/agreement/xn--ses554g-2014-01-16-en.
The same company? Beijing as opposed to their HK offshoot?

andre
14th January 2015, 08:40 AM
Kevin Murphy now has an answer as to why 网址 is at number 2

See http://domainincite.com/17858-heres-how-the-new-number-two-new-gtld-got-so-big-so-quick

André 小山 Schappo