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idnowner
14th April 2017, 12:47 AM
Although I don't wish to disclose the domain name,
here are all of my .コム IDNs that have revenue (Year to Date, 2017)
Only 9 Revenue domains this year, so far, out of 1060 domains.
Not very good - but there is hope (hoping Verisign does some promoting)


DOMAIN UNIQUES CLICKS REVENUE

X.コム 117 13 $5.76
XXXX.コム 43 6 $3.18
XX.コム 12 2 $1.33
XX.コム 6 1 $1.00
XXXX.コム 10 2 $0.71
XXX.コム 10 1 $0.55
XXX.コム 10 3 $0.16
XX.コム 9 1 $0.12
XXXXXX.コム 10 1 $0.09

NameYourself
14th April 2017, 01:40 AM
Yikes not even one is in the green!

idnowner
14th April 2017, 01:43 AM
Yikes not even one is in the green!

Since this is YTD, here at April 13th, the top one or two are (if the current stats continue).

We'll take another look once we get to January 2018. How's about that?

NameYourself
14th April 2017, 02:08 AM
Then there is hope! How about in terms of visits.. anything above 100? And are they from japan or elsewhere?

idnowner
14th April 2017, 02:26 AM
Then there is hope! How about in terms of visits.. anything above 100? And are they from japan or elsewhere?


No .コム domain with more than 14 uniques (Year-to-date)

I use ParkingCrew - Do they show geographic origin, if you know? (I couldn't find that data)

Its not so great right now, but I'm still optimistic.

Kent99
14th April 2017, 05:01 AM
Thanks for providing some real stats. Many people are hesitant to do so.

clipper
14th April 2017, 06:22 AM
Those are extraordinarily good numbers compared to mine. Zero clicks, 107 uniques.

Would you care to share if those were premium domains?

idn
14th April 2017, 08:41 AM
Those are extraordinarily good numbers compared to mine. Zero clicks, 107 uniques.

Would you care to share if those were premium domains?

He has some of the best Japanese domains.

More sad news if you ask me. Even at 100X growth the stats wouldn't exactly be great for the quarter.

idnowner
14th April 2017, 12:49 PM
No .コム domain with more than 14 uniques (Year-to-date)

I use ParkingCrew - Do they show geographic origin, if you know? (I couldn't find that data)

Its not so great right now, but I'm still optimistic.


CORRECTION: When I said none had over 14 Uniques, ... Actually, my top 5 sorted by unique visitors, descending order (Year-To-Date) have: 117 Uniques, 43 Uniques, 35 Uniques, 24 Uniques and 19 Uniques.

In my posted list of stats (Year-To-Date), (sorted by Revenue, descending, as you can see) - those were: 117 Uniques, 43, 12, 6, 10, 10, 10, 9 and 10.

idnowner
14th April 2017, 01:08 PM
Those are extraordinarily good numbers compared to mine. Zero clicks, 107 uniques.

Would you care to share if those were premium domains?

I would consider them "premium" - however, my two most expensive ones (LOAN and MUSIC, at about $14,000 each, per registration) are not in the revenue yet this year, but they are in the top 10 for unique visitors, which, at this point, is nearly as important, IMO.

In the list of stats, three of them are TICKET, DICTIONARY and SCAFFOLDING.

idnowner
14th April 2017, 01:45 PM
Another interesting look at IDN stats is by Language.

Considering:

1060 .コム Japanese
717 .com Japanese
7 Hebrew .coms
9 Portuguese .coms
1 Russian .com
10 Dingbat .com
1 Spanish .com
6 Others (odd-balls)


Running stats for all of my IDNs, showing the TOP 100 by Language (without the domain name), Year-To-Date, by Revenue in Descending Order (from $96.18 to $0.18), showing Language, Uniques, Clicks and Revenue...


#1 JAPANESE .com (1,382) (190) ($96.18)
#2 JAPANESE .com (455) (54) ($94.45)
#3 JAPANESE .com (332) (73) ($29.37)
#4 JAPANESE .com (232) (28) ($8.61)
#5 JAPANESE .com (68) (11) ($7.25)
#6 JAPANESE .com (223) (34) ($6.88)
#7 JAPANESE .コム (117) (13) ($5.76)
#8 PORTUGUESE .com (86) (45) ($4.36)
#9 JAPANESE .com (76) (8) ($4.16)
#10 JAPANESE .com (4) (3) ($3.21)
#11 JAPANESE .コム (43) (6) ($3.18)
#12 JAPANESE .com (94) (26) ($3.01)
#13 JAPANESE .com (63) (23) ($2.87)
#14 JAPANESE .com (7) (2) ($2.65)
#15 HEBREW .com (185) (21) ($2.44)
#16 JAPANESE .com (35) (12) ($2.29)
#17 JAPANESE .com (5) (2) ($2.22)
#18 JAPANESE .com (7) (2) ($2.12)
#19 JAPANESE .com (70) (11) ($2.02)
#20 JAPANESE .com (257) (10) ($1.75)
#21 JAPANESE .com (99) (9) ($1.75)
#22 JAPANESE .com (96) (10) ($1.62)
#23 JAPANESE .com (26) (1) ($1.55)
#24 PORTUGUESE .com (23) (17) ($1.54)
#25 JAPANESE .com (64) (7) ($1.42)
#26 JAPANESE .com (7) (5) ($1.38)
#27 PORTUGUESE .com (928) (50) ($1.35)
#28 JAPANESE .コム (12) (2) ($1.33)
#29 JAPANESE .com (22) (3) ($1.31)
#30 JAPANESE .com (44) (20) ($1.26)
#31 JAPANESE .com (140) (7) ($1.26)
#32 JAPANESE .com (11) (2) ($1.09)
#33 JAPANESE .com (388) (12) ($1.01)
#34 JAPANESE .コム (6) (1) ($1.00)
#35 JAPANESE .com (20) (1) ($0.98)
#36 JAPANESE .com (7) (1) ($0.98)
#37 JAPANESE .com (32) (6) ($0.90)
#38 JAPANESE .com (21) (7) ($0.89)
#39 JAPANESE .com (152) (2) ($0.89)
#40 JAPANESE .com (25) (1) ($0.86)
#41 HEBREW .com (120) (1) ($0.83)
#42 JAPANESE .com (31) (11) ($0.80)
#43 JAPANESE .com (16) (4) ($0.79)
#44 JAPANESE .コム (10) (2) ($0.71)
#45 JAPANESE .com (26) (6) ($0.70)
#46 JAPANESE .com (23) (3) ($0.65)
#47 JAPANESE .com (9) (1) ($0.64)
#48 JAPANESE .com (101) (4) ($0.60)
#49 OTHER .com (174) (21) ($0.59)
#50 PORTUGUESE .com (82) (6) ($0.59)
#51 HEBREW .com (202) (3) ($0.58)
#52 JAPANESE .com (26) (3) ($0.58)
#53 JAPANESE .コム (10) (1) ($0.55)
#54 JAPANESE .com (9) (2) ($0.53)
#55 JAPANESE .com (134) (13) ($0.52)
#56 JAPANESE .com (22) (5) ($0.50)
#57 JAPANESE .com (10) (2) ($0.50)
#58 JAPANESE .com (16) (4) ($0.49)
#59 JAPANESE .com (25) (1) ($0.48)
#60 JAPANESE .com (12) (6) ($0.48)
#61 JAPANESE .com (105) (2) ($0.46)
#62 JAPANESE .com (14) (1) ($0.46)
#63 JAPANESE .com (29) (3) ($0.44)
#64 JAPANESE .com (17) (3) ($0.43)
#65 JAPANESE .com (26) (4) ($0.42)
#66 JAPANESE .com (137) (5) ($0.41)
#67 JAPANESE .com (6) (1) ($0.41)
#68 JAPANESE .com (10) (2) ($0.41)
#69 JAPANESE .com (19) (1) ($0.40)
#70 JAPANESE .com (16) (2) ($0.40)
#71 JAPANESE .com (9) (1) ($0.37)
#72 JAPANESE .com (52) (2) ($0.36)
#73 JAPANESE .com (8) (2) ($0.35)
#74 JAPANESE .com (80) (2) ($0.34)
#75 JAPANESE .com (8) (4) ($0.34)
#76 JAPANESE .com (14) (2) ($0.33)
#77 JAPANESE .com (31) (0) ($0.32)
#78 JAPANESE .com (9) (0) ($0.32)
#79 JAPANESE .com (8) (2) ($0.32)
#80 JAPANESE .com (10) (2) ($0.30)
#81 JAPANESE .com (9) (5) ($0.30)
#82 PORTUGUESE .com (59) (14) ($0.28)
#83 JAPANESE .com (19) (2) ($0.28)
#84 JAPANESE .com (18) (1) ($0.27)
#85 JAPANESE .com (10) (1) ($0.27)
#86 JAPANESE .com (9) (2) ($0.26)
#87 JAPANESE .com (20) (1) ($0.25)
#88 JAPANESE .com (2) (3) ($0.25)
#89 JAPANESE .com (16) (1) ($0.22)
#90 JAPANESE .com (9) (0) ($0.22)
#91 JAPANESE .com (4) (1) ($0.22)
#92 JAPANESE .com (24) (2) ($0.21)
#93 JAPANESE .com (49) (3) ($0.20)
#94 JAPANESE .com (25) (2) ($0.20)
#95 JAPANESE .com (12) (1) ($0.19)
#96 JAPANESE .com (11) (1) ($0.19)
#97 JAPANESE .com (7) (0) ($0.19)
#98 DINGBAT .com (1,086) (0) ($0.18)
#99 JAPANESE .com (45) (2) ($0.18)
#100 JAPANESE .com (34) (3) ($0.18)

clipper
14th April 2017, 07:21 PM
Thank you, very interesting data.

And promising, I would add that .コム, barely a year old, makes a decent showing at the top.

sbe18
14th April 2017, 09:53 PM
thanks for sharing your data.
Steve

idn
15th April 2017, 01:54 AM
Thank you, very interesting data.

And promising...

lol. I need to start smoking whatever you guys are.

All I keep seeing is failure.

Either the term IDNer is now synonymous with eternal optimist or I've forgot how to interpret statistics.

Anyway, I'll keep my pessimism away from this happy train. :)

idnowner
15th April 2017, 04:34 AM
lol. I need to start smoking whatever you guys are.

All I keep seeing is failure.

Either the term IDNer is now synonymous with eternal optimist or I've forgot how to interpret statistics.

Anyway, I'll keep my pessimism away from this happy train. :)

First of all, being a domainer usually requires you to smoke a little whatever, or drink a little whatever... to make your disappointment easier to bear, or to celebrate your success. (Or... to make your domaining more enjoyable. After all, it is much easier to register a domain like bananasquidworld.com while under the influence of a mind-altering substance.)

I would agree, the statistics are not very good, at this time in the history of the Internet. But they're much better than zero, and improving.

Although my Full-Japanese IDNs makes up close to 60% of my IDNs, 5 of them are in my top 50 for revenue this year so far.

The term "failure" you speak of... is a subjective thing.

If you let your domains all expire because they didn't sell or earn PPC revenue, then that sounds like failure.

As long as your domain hasn't expired, failure hasn't happened yet.

Sometimes things take significant time. And sometimes the time is not right.

I've also got to ask the questions....

Did Verisign promote .コム IDNs in Japan?

How many people in Japan even know these exist?

Are Japanese registrars promoting them?

Is Verisign planning to launch a new publicity campaign anytime soon?

Anyway, I'm still optimistic.

If you've got some top-tier-quality names, it only takes one sale to go CHA-CHING!.

But, maybe it's too early to expect an oak tree, having recently planted the acorn. Perhaps we could use a little Miracle-Gro®.

Kent99
15th April 2017, 04:37 AM
Look at #98. A dingbat with 1086 uniques

idnowner
15th April 2017, 04:58 AM
Look at #98. A dingbat with 1086 uniques

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123
15th April 2017, 12:16 PM
lol. I need to start smoking whatever you guys are.

All I keep seeing is failure.

Either the term IDNer is now synonymous with eternal optimist or I've forgot how to interpret statistics.

Anyway, I'll keep my pessimism away from this happy train. :)

the way I interpret this data:

Parking is dead unless you own a ultra premium AND are lucky and even then it will only generate very modest income.

tee1
15th April 2017, 12:35 PM
As long as your domain hasn't expired, failure hasn't happened yet.

Word :yes:



Thanks for posting the data, much appreciated.

Jay
15th April 2017, 12:39 PM
the way I interpret this data:

Parking is dead unless you own a ultra premium AND are lucky and even then it will only generate very modest income.

Very true. Parking will never generate a profit, unless you hold on to, say, just the top 10 domains for a very marginal return. More of a problem is that parking doesn't even really help cover costs even for modest portfolios, yet alone a portfolio of 1,800 domains!

But the game here is holding long-term in the hope of one day finding buyers. Will a secondary .コム market one day emerge? That is the question. It's a big gamble.

In the meantime, $15k in annual renewal fees for this portfolio. If the market was even slightly mature, the odd domain could be sold off to cover renewals, but that is not the case (at least atm) with .コム.

clipper
15th April 2017, 08:07 PM
Did Verisign promote .コム IDNs in Japan?

How many people in Japan even know these exist?

Are Japanese registrars promoting them?[/i].

Namestat (https://namestat.org/xn--tckwe#geographic) is going to be useful in the coming months to monitor renewals.

Roughly a third of all names were registered the week of 27 Sep - 4 Oct last year.

Of the 26k registered .コム names, 19k have privacy on whois, so they don't show up in the GEO breakdown, but 22k are registered through GMO, which had insanely cheap prices and free privacy at onamae.com (I think it was like 30 cents/name), so we can surmise that these are roughly 80% held by native speakers who got the initial reg for next to nothing. Renewals, at 1160jpy, will likely be sluggish at best.

clipper
15th April 2017, 08:13 PM
lol. I need to start smoking whatever you guys are.

All I keep seeing is failure.

Either the term IDNer is now synonymous with eternal optimist or I've forgot how to interpret statistics.

Anyway, I'll keep my pessimism away from this happy train. :)

No, you're right, but when you've been in the dark for as long as we have even charcoal can look as white as snow.