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DomenForum.net
11th July 2006, 06:27 AM
Here is my entire portfolio up for sale. You may buy them all or pick any and come up with a price offer here or via pm.

Voila:

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Will accept any offers via PM, or post them here

bramiozo
11th July 2006, 06:30 AM
A problem is that one can't select the names for further investigation, something in .txt format would be better. Good luck.

DomenForum.net
11th July 2006, 07:33 AM
xn--90aiage0afd7a.com (бизнесмен.com) Businessman BIN: $350

xn--b1ad.com (дв.com) DV.com (Two letter domain) BIN: $100

xn--c1akfpk.com (горки.com) Furniture related name BIN: $250

xn--b1albgctceu.com (поисковик.com) Search Engine BIN: $800 SOLD
xn--d1a6a.com (дф.com) DF.com (Two letter domain) BIN: $100

xn--h1aaakd7d4c.com (милиция.com) Police BIN: $150

xn--h1aeklg.com (сотик.com) Cell phone (slang) BIN: $500

xn--h1agd3a1b.com (филмы.com) Movies (typo ... commmon typing mistake) BIN: $100

xn--80atld.com (пока.com) Bye BIN: $150

xn--e1aflsdg.com (мистер.com) Mister (adult name) BIN: $350

xn--80adja8ahat5l.com (временная.com) Temporary BIN: $100

xn--d1ap7d.com (мёд.com) Honey BIN: $450

xn--e1amjcn.com (тепло.com) Heat BIN: $600

xn--d1anib6a.com (холод.com) Cold BIN: $750

xn--80ann.com (зал.com) Hall (real estate, furniture related) BIN: $1500

xn--d1a8a.com (дх.com)  DH.com (Two letter domain) BIN: $100

xn--b1au.com (вм.com) VM.com (Two letter domain) BIN: $100

xn--d1am.com (дк.com)  DK.com (Two letter domain) BIN: $100

xn--h1adx1a4b.com (щётки.com) Brushes BIN: $250

xn--b1abddb7ari.com (гледенов.com) Gledenov (last name of VERY popular Russian cybersquatter) BIN: $50

xn--80aneha5bn.com (закуски.com) Snacks BIN: $500

xn--80a0anxs.com (штаны.com) Pants BIN: $1000

xn--80aacw1bya.com (забота.com) Care BIN: $2000

xn--80anesb3i.com (знания.com) Knowledge BIN: $1000

xn--e1arhcfp.com (хостер.com) Hoster BIN: $300

xn--h1abdoog.com (стойки.com) Suspensions (auto realted) BIN: $250

xn--80aesiqfpi9d.com (поставщик.com) Supplier BIN: $350

xn--b1agp.com (век.com) Century (real estate related) BIN: $600

xn--80axfimh.com (формат.com) Format BIN: $200

xn--90ab1bi6c.com (выбор.com) Choice BIN: $1000

xn--j1ahl.com (ток.com) Electricity BIN: $200

xn--l1accbpg9b2a.com (мощность.com) Power BIN: $350

xn--d1abujt0d.com (методы.com) Methods BIN: $250

xn--3-ftbkn1go.com (ьз3юкг.com) mp3.ru (that's what you get, when you forget to switch your keyboard to English) BIN: $550

xn--c1ahja3b1bc4b.com (зщктщюкг.com) Porno.com (that's what you get, when you forget to switch your keyboard to English) BIN: $600

xn--h1adyd2de.com (якутия.com) Yakutiya (russian region) BIN: $200

xn--80ad1ce.com (тува.com) Tuva (russian region) BIN: $250

xn--80aaa5cnfh2a7d.com (астранахь.com) Astrakhan (russian region) BIN: $200

xn--80aitmd6dxa.com (площадь.com) Square, Space, Acreage BIN: $550

xn--80aesajugrj6e.com (поставщики.com) Suppliers BIN: $550

xn--80agftgcrbnw.com (маркетолог.com) Marketer BIN: $500

xn--d1aq.com (дм.com) DM.com BIN: $100

xn--d1as.com (дн.com) DN.com BIN: $100

xn--b1aehb1afbfk0jtc.com (порнозвёзды.com) Pornostars (Adult) BIN: $300 SOLD

xn--h1aaahn3dwc.com (яичники.com) Egg Cells (Adult) BIN: $100

xn--g1anc4c.com (позы.com) Positions (Adult) BIN: $450 SOLD

xn--d1airhm2a1b.com (дрочить.com) To masturbate (Adult) BIN: $100

xn--c1ar.com (мг.com) MG.com BIN: $100

xn--b1aghinibcrlk.com (спутниковое.com) Satellite (satellite radio, satellite tv, satellite receiver ... got nice stats) BIN: $200

xn--e1ajbceli1a5f.com (комплекты.com) Sets, Kits BIN: $450

xn--b1afbk2bed8f.com (ресиверы.com) Receivers BIN: $250

xn--e1aaigbegpk7al6e2c.com (комплектующие.com) Smth. that comes in addition to smth. (mostly computer term) BIN: $200

Rubber Duck
11th July 2006, 07:46 AM
I think we have a rule about at least indicating a price range or BIN, don't we?

burnsinternet
11th July 2006, 07:50 AM
Thank you! That saves me a lot of time.

DomenForum.net
11th July 2006, 07:53 AM
BIN for the entire portfolio $10,000

glow
11th July 2006, 11:04 AM
(астранахь.com) Astrakhan (russian region)
do you mean 'астрахань'?

DomenForum.net
11th July 2006, 02:42 PM
He he, I thought I got the one :)

Rubber Duck
11th July 2006, 04:14 PM
He he, I thought I got the one :)

No, it looks as though I might have.

DomenForum.net
11th July 2006, 04:23 PM
No, it looks as though I might have.

Nice catch :)

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Hey guys, I don't hear any offers ....

DomenForum.net
13th July 2006, 10:10 PM
Continuing to take any offers

DomenForum.net
20th July 2006, 04:26 AM
Well, since there is no more interest in IDN's i will have to let this names drop by the time they expire. Once they drop they will be acquired by SnapNames and none of you will get them for less than $60, in most cases less than $400

So, it is up to you eather to make me an offer now, or say bye bye to these nice names.

networker
20th July 2006, 04:32 AM
Well, since there is no more interest in IDN's i will have to let this names drop by the time they expire. Once they drop they will be acquired by SnapNames and none of you will get them for less than $60, in most cases less than $400

So, it is up to you eather to make me an offer now, or say bye bye to these nice names.

I've been reading your posts since you've arrived here from DomenForum. Since then, I have yet to see a post in which you are not complaining about "IDNs not having interest", "no one is buying my names", yada yada yada. The fact of the matter is, chances are you can't just show up here and post your entire portfolio for sale, and expect to sell it for $10,000 the day after you register the names.

I'll say it once, and I'll say it again - just because people don't have interest in YOUR IDNs, doesn't mean there isn't a general interest in IDN.

Stop whining about people not wanting your names right now, it takes time. Oh, and FYI, your last post could be conceived as being quite childish.

Off the soap box...

ScottFish
20th July 2006, 04:33 AM
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burnsinternet
20th July 2006, 05:05 AM
Well, since there is no more interest in IDN's i will have to let this names drop by the time they expire. Once they drop they will be acquired by SnapNames and none of you will get them for less than $60, in most cases less than $400

So, it is up to you eather to make me an offer now, or say bye bye to these nice names.

You have some good names there, but you might want to read other posts regarding Russian IDNs. Rather than paying $200 or more for yours right now, I can still find my own. I, personally, enjoy 'the hunt' for scarce names. That doesn't mean I won't buy from you in a few months.

You will probably get at least double your prices if you will be patient. If you let them drop in a year, you will only hurt yourself. You should re-list the sale in a few months. Some people here focus on other languages and will take some weeks to become accustomed to Russian IDNs.

I am still uneasy buying certain IDN languages because I do not feel comfortable with the language. I have made many mistakes with Korean and other languages and I struggle with Arabic. Others may feel this way about Russian.

Be happy that you have such nice domain names and that they will become more valuable every week. IDNs are like children, they teach you patience when you do not want that lesson.

rhys
20th July 2006, 06:45 AM
Well, since there is no more interest in IDN's i will have to let this names drop by the time they expire. Once they drop they will be acquired by SnapNames and none of you will get them for less than $60, in most cases less than $400

So, it is up to you eather to make me an offer now, or say bye bye to these nice names.

DF - look around. There are crack dealers on every corner dude. Ain't nuttin' special bout your rock son! Chill and give it some time.

alpha
20th July 2006, 07:04 AM
Well, since there is no more interest in IDN's i will have to let this names drop by the time they expire. Once they drop they will be acquired by SnapNames and none of you will get them for less than $60, in most cases less than $400

So, it is up to you eather to make me an offer now, or say bye bye to these nice names.

DF: patience and cunning aren't your speciality are they? :rolleyes:

some people on this forum have registered names over 6 years ago. This is a waiting game. You only turned up like 10 minutes ago, and now you're cashing out because a 10 minute wait is too long?

burnsinternet
20th July 2006, 07:08 AM
DF - look around. There are crack dealers on every corner dude. Ain't nuttin' special bout your rock son! Chill and give it some time.

IDNs are like children? IDNs are like crack? Hmmm.... Addictive. Hard to live without either, once you make that leap. Precious to the addict/parent. Both drive you nuts....

I suppose so. :p

touchring
20th July 2006, 08:05 AM
Well, since there is no more interest in IDN's i will have to let this names drop by the time they expire. Once they drop they will be acquired by SnapNames and none of you will get them for less than $60, in most cases less than $400

So, it is up to you eather to make me an offer now, or say bye bye to these nice names.


That's the thing about buyers - they like it hard to get - the more you throw your names to the buyers, the harder to sell.

If you've seen some of the tactics used on this forum - the seller will first put up a name for appraisal, put up some links and translation to create interest - highlight it's good points, e.g. single word, single character, commercial term, high ovt bids, etc. Mention the name on the forum a few times.

That's how people can sell a name for one or two thousands dollars, the very same names you can't sell for $200.

DomenForum.net
20th July 2006, 08:20 AM
touchring (http://www.idnforums.com/forums/members/touchring.html), if you see any name in my portfolio that you will be able to resell later for 2000, let me know, and I will sell it to you for 100 right now.

burnsinternet
20th July 2006, 08:24 AM
:rolleyes: You might want to read his post again, DF.

DomenForum.net
20th July 2006, 08:32 AM
I read his post :)

That is why I want to get rid of my portfolio ... don't want to waste my time holding on to something that has no use and is not about to have one in the near future.

If everyone can see value in IDNs, than where did all buyers go?

I am accepting offers!

Rubber Duck
20th July 2006, 08:38 AM
I read his post :)

That is why I want to get rid of my portfolio ... don't want to waste my time holding on to something that has no use and is not about to have one in the near future.

If everyone can see value in IDNs, than where did all buyers go?

I am accepting offers!

Well, if you are one of the opinion formers in the Russian Domain market, it is becoming increasingly obvious to me why the market is going up a blind ally. It would seem that the whole ethos is about flipping. Well, my advice to you woud be flip you ASCII whilst you still can. IDN is coming and it is now very imminent. If you flip all your IDN and hold all your ASCII, you are in grave danger or looking a right pratt, even if you haven't already achieved that status.

touchring
20th July 2006, 08:39 AM
touchring (http://www.idnforums.com/forums/members/touchring.html), if you see any name in my portfolio that you will be able to resell later for 2000, let me know, and I will sell it to you for 100 right now.


Unfortunately, i'm no expert in selling names at inflated value - never mind that i personally do not believe in doing that as there are still ways to make the same amount of money and still achieve win-win situation for both parties.

If you want to have an idea of the kind of pricing that can be achieved, please take a look at this - http://www.idntools.net/idnsales.php

burnsinternet
20th July 2006, 08:39 AM
OK. My mistake, DF.

Just curious, what types of domains do you generally 'hold' and develop or park?

DomenForum.net
20th July 2006, 08:46 AM
OK. My mistake, DF.

Just curious, what types of domains do you generally 'hold' and develop or park?

I do doorways as long as .RU domains.

Three letter .RU names that were available last year easily go for around $500 today.

Developing every domain I have in my portfolio would be kinda difficult

DomenForum.net
20th July 2006, 08:48 AM
Since there is huge competition on the US market, I decided to work with Russians, and for those who think that russians don't have money in Russia, you are totally wrong

Rubber Duck
20th July 2006, 08:49 AM
I do doorways as long as .RU domains.

Three letter .RU names that were available last year easily go for around $500 today.

Developing every domain I have in my portfolio would be kinda difficult

Well Latin three letter dot RU Acronyms have a limited shelf life. Your the flipper, I suggest you start flipping.

DomenForum.net
20th July 2006, 08:51 AM
I currently have over $300k worth portfolio with .RU names, that I can sell right now ... thanks god I invested in .RU last year instead of investing in IDN's which would be a totall loss

touchring
20th July 2006, 08:59 AM
I currently have over $300k worth portfolio with .RU names, that I can sell right now ... thanks god I invested in .RU last year instead of investing in IDN's which would be a totall loss


Interesting, shows that we should look out of the well. Will you buy into idn.ru?

burnsinternet
20th July 2006, 09:02 AM
...for those who think that russians don't have money in Russia, you are totally wrong

No one here thinks that. Why do you say that?

DF, please try to be nice. We are all here to help each other. I hope to have a long professional relationship with you and other Russian domainers. I trust that you will see that in time.

Rubber Duck
20th July 2006, 09:06 AM
I currently have over $300k worth portfolio with .RU names, that I can sell right now ... thanks god I invested in .RU last year instead of investing in IDN's which would be a totall loss

Well by this time next year, that portfolio of your will be worth Zilch.

I find it difficult to believe that you are so well endowed and are pannicking over a couple of Dozen new investments that you cannot flip over-night. DCG turned up here, learnt all he could, bought about 5000 IDN in just about every language and disappeared, not heard a peep out of him for months. As a pro, he knows that you have to give time for an investment to mature. You also need to be aware that in some circumstances an investment can also turn to dust. If you truely have that much value locked in ASCII.RU, you would be well advised to stop panicking about your IDN investments and realise at least a substantial proportion of what you have locked up.

On your other point. Yes, we trust that Russian have large amounts of money to spend. Why else we would we invest in Russian IDN.

DomenForum.net
20th July 2006, 09:13 AM
touchring (http://www.idnforums.com/forums/members/touchring.html), there will be no idn.ru in the near future, even if it will, there is no way microsoft will work on IE7 making it put .RU extension when entering IDN in russian IE7 .... even if that happens, it won't be in the near future.

As soon as legar Russian IDN.IDN appear I will invest some $$$, because they make sense more than idn.com for the russian people in general and domainers.


burnsinternet (http://www.idnforums.com/forums/members/burnsinternet.html), I am sorry if I was rude!

Olney
20th July 2006, 09:15 AM
Truth be told it's like this.
You own a Russian forum right?
But now it's like, you're saying IDNs are useless... This reflects YOUR market. The same market you just invested in & trying to sell your portfolio.

Instead of increasing the Russian IDN market in Russian it's like... Let's sell everything we can to these guys...

I know the Japanese market, & know it well. I became an adult in Japan & have always worked in online media. I know where Japan is & where it will go.

If you say IDNs are worthless, I only think about your market, especially since you even own a Russian Domain forum.

There's over 70 russian domainers that have signed up here within the last month. Your market suddenly became saturated. These guys on here have been dealing in Russian domains for a while since last year. They went for the best initially.

Everyone has different agendas, but guaranteed no one ever will say spend a month registering IDNs & they will all sell a month later.

No matter the language domains with obvious commercial use will sell the best.

DomenForum.net
20th July 2006, 09:19 AM
Onlney, some day, when I have free time and will, I'll PM you with the reason I'm selling my portfolio and making it sound like there is no way IDN's can survive.

We all got the plan on the mind, we all do not share our plans, we all got different plan :)

Rubber Duck
20th July 2006, 09:41 AM
touchring (http://www.idnforums.com/forums/members/touchring.html), there will be no idn.ru in the near future, even if it will, there is no way microsoft will work on IE7 making it put .RU extension when entering IDN in russian IE7 .... even if that happens, it won't be in the near future.

As soon as legar Russian IDN.IDN appear I will invest some $$$, because they make sense more than idn.com for the russian people in general and domainers.


burnsinternet (http://www.idnforums.com/forums/members/burnsinternet.html), I am sorry if I was rude!

You just haven't got it have you? Microsoft will not require to do anything new to support IDN.com or IDN.ru, everything that is necessary is already there.

We have no control over whether Runic support IDN, but if they don't Dot RU will quickly disappear down the tubes. Given the choice between using their own language or using the Government sponsored Extension, I know where their loyalties will lie. They will just blame their own incompetitent government for the problem.

IDN.RU would clearly make a lot of sense, but there is no evidence that Runic are going to get their act together in time to make a difference. By the time they are ready, dot Com could easily have swept dot RU away.

Onlney, some day, when I have free time and will, I'll PM you with the reason I'm selling my portfolio and making it sound like there is no way IDN's can survive.

We all got the plan on the mind, we all do not share our plans, we all got different plan :)

That sounds like an admission that you are trying to scupper IDN to protect your ASCII investments, and that that has been the Agenda all along.

Well, don't worry, your small fry and it has been tried before. The fact that you promote this belief that IDN will fail, just underlines that we are not dealing with anybody with much foresight here. IDN will not fail. You coming on here and registering a few and then making an incompent mess of trying to flip them, won't change anything.

idn1234
20th July 2006, 11:01 AM
IDN will flourish enormously, I don't think there
can be any doubt of that ;-)

IDN.ru is, I understand, on the agenda at Runic;
I had some correspondence last year with George
Georgievsky, one of the top guys there and he has
said it will be introduced soon.

This being Russia 'though, 'soon' could mean pretty
much anything but I think the longer they delay the
better it will be for <russianidn>.com.

(technically, idn.ru is possible now as I have seen a
few such sites listed on Google; Putin/Kremlin and
some other Govt. related sites... perhaps they are
testing the demand for idn.ru now, with these sites?).

Rubber Duck
20th July 2006, 11:06 AM
IDN will flourish enormously, I don't think there
can be any doubt of that ;-)

IDN.ru is, I understand, on the agenda at Runic;
I had some correspondence last year with George
Georgievsky, one of the top guys there and he has
said it will be introduced soon.

This being Russia 'though, 'soon' could mean pretty
much anything but I think the longer they delay the
better it will be for <russianidn>.com.

(technically, idn.ru is possible now as I have seen a
few such sites listed on Google; Putin/Kremlin and
some other Govt. related sites... perhaps they are
testing the demand for idn.ru now, with these sites?).

The issues are regulatory rather than technical. Perhaps the perceptions in the West relate to the past, but the impression is that bureaucrats are not highly tuned to the needs of commercial organisations. We could of course be proven wrong.

Explorer
20th July 2006, 12:01 PM
The issues are regulatory rather than technical. Perhaps the perceptions in the West relate to the past, but the impression is that bureaucrats are not highly tuned to the needs of commercial organisations. We could of course be proven wrong.

I think you are right. By the time .RU folks get it together, IE7 will be out and the buzz on IDNs coupled with increased demand will force them to either implement a sunrise period or auction domains off. Or, there will be enough smart Russian programmers to write scripts to reg those IDN.RU domains the split second they become available, as it happened with German IDN.BIZ.

In any case, the conclusion is only one - you will not be able to get a decent IDN.RU domain at a reg fee.

alpha
20th July 2006, 12:08 PM
I think you are right. By the time .RU folks get it together, IE7 will be out and the buzz on IDNs coupled with increased demand will force them to either implement a sunrise period or auction domains off. Or, there will be enough smart Russian programmers to write scripts to reg those IDN.RU domains the split second they become available, as it happened with German IDN.BIZ.

In any case, the conclusion is only one - you will not be able to get a decent IDN.RU domain at a reg fee.

I think i'd invest in some IDN.RU names, but I would be very hesitant about how much though, especially after last time they deleted them all.

I think the sunrise option is a real possibility, i may just go and place my backorder with Snapnames now.. :p Lets face it, it will be swept up by the big boys - or to the registrar offering the biggest bribe :p

I cannot see an outcome where everyday domainers will get a look-in at the "cream" to be honest

Rubber Duck
20th July 2006, 12:16 PM
I think i'd invest in some IDN.RU names, but I would be very hesitant about how much though, especially after last time they deleted them all.

I think the sunrise option is a real possibility, i may just go and place my backorder with Snapnames now.. :p Lets face it, it will be swept up by the big boys - or to the registrar offering the biggest bribe :p

I cannot see an outcome where everyday domainers will get a look-in at the "cream" to be honest

No, if EU was total stitchup this will certainly be worse. Being Russian will help a lot, but money will talk louder.

touchring
20th July 2006, 12:37 PM
I think i'd invest in some IDN.RU names, but I would be very hesitant about how much though, especially after last time they deleted them all.

When one buys a lotto ticket that can potentially win thousands to a million dollars, but if the ticket doesn't win, it will be "deleted" 9999 out of 10000 tries.

The odds are definitely better with IDN.RU.

Rubber Duck
20th July 2006, 01:04 PM
When one buys a lotto ticket that can potentially win thousands to a million dollars, but if the ticket doesn't win, it will be "deleted" 9999 out of 10000 tries.

The odds are definitely better with IDN.RU.

I am sure that if you have the opportunity to buy on a level playing field these will do well if they come out within the next year or so. After that they will be playing catch up big time.

The lottery tickets that are about to be cancelled on mass are the ASCII.RU.

The difference between Russian and other languages is that transliteration is quite straight forward. I would think it is highly likely that existing Dot RU holder may be given the option to apply for the transliterated cyrillic version. It may well be that there is a block placed on such registrations, such that all registrations are effectively paired. If that were the case then there would be no landrush. It would for the most part be simply a case of converting.

touchring
20th July 2006, 01:10 PM
I am sure that if you have the opportunity to buy on a level playing field these will do well if they come out within the next year or so. After that they will be playing catch up big time.

The lottery tickets that are about to be cancelled on mass are the ASCII.RU.

The difference between Russian and other languages is that transliteration is quite straight forward. I would think it is highly likely that existing Dot RU holder may be given the option to apply for the transliterated cyrillic version. It may well be that there is a block placed on such registrations, such that all registrations are effectively paired. If that were the case then there would be no landrush. It would for the most part be simply a case of converting.


oooouu, so this is the secret being talked about?? No wonder they are chasing the ASCIIs.

Explorer
20th July 2006, 01:15 PM
I am sure that if you have the opportunity to buy on a level playing field these will do well if they come out within the next year or so. After that they will be playing catch up big time.

The lottery tickets that are about to be cancelled on mass are the ASCII.RU.

The difference between Russian and other languages is that transliteration is quite straight forward. I would think it is highly likely that existing Dot RU holder may be given the option to apply for the transliterated cyrillic version. It may well be that there is a block placed on such registrations, such that all registrations are effectively paired. If that were the case then there would be no landrush. It would for the most part be simply a case of converting.


Then the owners of moskva.ru, mockva.ru, moskwa.ru, mockwa.ru and moscow.ru wouldn't have any arguments which one will get the idn.ru version :-)

Rubber Duck
20th July 2006, 01:16 PM
oooouu, so this is the secret being talked about?? No wonder they are chasing the ASCIIs.

Of course there would still be the single and double characters to argue over.

I guess those would just be distributed amongst the party faithful.

Then the owners of moskva.ru, mockva.ru, moskwa.ru, mockwa.ru and moscow.ru wouldn't have any arguments which one will get the idn.ru version :-)

Not sure, would these transliterate in theory to the same thing?

If you have a system where one specific letter is mapped to another specific character, then there would be no disputes once the mapping is agreed.

Explorer
20th July 2006, 01:22 PM
Of course there would still be the single and double characters to argue over.

I guess those would just be distributed amongst the party faithful.



Not sure, would these transliterate in theory to the same thing?

If you have a system where one specific letter is mapped to another specific character, then there would be no disputes once the mapping is agreed.

Maybe. But Russians have a lot more letters :-)

Rubber Duck
20th July 2006, 01:32 PM
Maybe. But Russians have a lot more letters :-)

Some letters in English would presumably give you entitlement to more than one letter in Russian. Transliteration table is given in:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanization_of_Russian

Might involve some string prepping but to a non-speaker, it doesn't look too complicated. Lets face it you were never going to please everyone.

Taking the ISO 9:1995 column the only Latin characters abscent are Q and W. Obviously these would not occur too commonly as they are not natural to Russians. W could be prepped to VV which is where its orgins lie. Q might not be so easy, but any dissenters could always be accommodated in Siberia, whilst they mull the problem over.

Explorer
20th July 2006, 01:37 PM
Lets face it you were never going to please everyone.

That's very true.

alpha
23rd July 2006, 10:08 AM
...If everyone can see value in IDNs, than where did all buyers go?....

I think I can answer your question:

1) Our first experience of Russian domainers from your forum turned out to be a scam, where one of our members was conned out of money.

2) On your forum "we" are referred to as Америкосы [ethnic slur for Americans, Yankee-suckers]

3) One of your recent sales: http://www.idnforums.com/forums/5024-new-com-over-400k-ya-wordstat-45mil-google-ru-stats.html

I have been reliably informed by 2 native speakers that there are 3 ways to say "New" in Russian. the male, the female and the "is..." version.

This is the "is..." version, and as I understand it as good as junk.
As a native speaker, you must know this.


Now I wouldn't profess to being a marketing or sales expert; but even I can see that everything I have mentioned may contribute to why you are seeing very few sales to Russian domainers who try to sell here.

I hope I have helped answer your question.

blastfromthepast
23rd July 2006, 11:12 AM
I don't like your negative attitude. You are rude to people, and then expect to do business with them.

Rubber Duck
23rd July 2006, 11:18 AM
Yes, and they will hoovering Russian IDNs as well, as soon as they understand the real potential, which is incidentally is not about flipping to Yankee-Suckers. Anyway, why all the bad feelings if they have just bought a load of junk, nobody is really interested in? The first sale on Snapnames to break $2K is going to make big news. This would be absolute 100% unquestionably authentic, and Snapnames sales are widely followed and reported. Pool won't be that far behind.

bwhhisc
23rd July 2006, 12:05 PM
For the record- I made DomenForum an offer to buy his entire portfolio at 200% of registered value last week. No response received.

Rubber Duck
23rd July 2006, 12:10 PM
Well you Yankees must be beneath contempt. It at least merited a "Sod Off".

bwhhisc
23rd July 2006, 01:12 PM
Well you Yankees must be beneath contempt. It at least merited a "Sod Off".

RD- I buffered my offer by telling him he should hold the IDNS! But by the same token if he wants to get rid of them, I am happy to help him bail out! I truly hope he doesn't sell and holds to see the investment pan out.

QUOTE
"Alex, if you truly want to just get out, and wish to sell your names, I will offer you double your money invested. I also say that with belief that if you hold them for a year or two you can get much more. But there is an offer anyway". Bill

Rubber Duck
23rd July 2006, 01:18 PM
RD- I buffered my offer by telling him he should hold the IDNS! But by the same token if he wants to get rid of them, I am happy to help him bail out! I truly hope he doesn't sell and holds to see the investment pan out.

QUOTE
"Alex, if you truly want to just get out, and wish to sell your names, I will offer you double your money invested. I also say that with belief that if you hold them for a year or two you can get much more. But there is an offer anyway". Bill

Well put like that, it would seem to prove the argument about Domainers having no Social Skills. An acknowledgement of some form was called for.

DomenForum.net
27th July 2006, 01:05 PM
xn--90aiage0afd7a.com (бизнесмен.com) Businessman BIN: $350

xn--b1ad.com (дв.com) DV.com (Two letter domain) BIN: $300

xn--c1akfpk.com (горки.com) Furniture related name BIN: $550

xn--b1albgctceu.com (поисковик.com) Search Engine BIN: $800 SOLD
xn--d1a6a.com (дф.com) DF.com (Two letter domain) BIN: $300

xn--h1aaakd7d4c.com (милиция.com) Police BIN: $650

xn--h1aeklg.com (сотик.com) Cell phone (slang) BIN: $500

xn--h1agd3a1b.com (филмы.com) Movies (typo ... commmon typing mistake) BIN: $50

xn--80atld.com (пока.com) Bye BIN: $350

xn--e1aflsdg.com (мистер.com) Mister (adult name) BIN: $650

xn--80adja8ahat5l.com (временная.com) Temporary BIN: $50

xn--d1ap7d.com (мёд.com) Honey BIN: $1250

xn--e1amjcn.com (тепло.com) Heat BIN: $600

xn--d1anib6a.com (холод.com) Cold BIN: $1700

xn--80ann.com (зал.com) Hall (real estate, furniture related) BIN: $4000

xn--d1a8a.com (дх.com) D;DH.com (Two letter domain) BIN: $300

xn--b1au.com (вм.com) VM.com (Two letter domain) BIN: $300

xn--d1am.com (дк.com) D;DK.com (Two letter domain) BIN: $300

xn--h1adx1a4b.com (щётки.com) Brushes BIN: $450

xn--b1abddb7ari.com (гледенов.com) Gledenov (last name of VERY popular Russian cybersquatter) BIN: $50

xn--80aneha5bn.com (закуски.com) Snacks BIN: $2500

xn--80a0anxs.com (штаны.com) Pants BIN: $3000

xn--80aacw1bya.com (забота.com) Care BIN: $8000

xn--80anesb3i.com (знания.com) Knowledge BIN: $2000

xn--e1arhcfp.com (хостер.com) Hoster BIN: $700

xn--h1abdoog.com (стойки.com) Suspension (auto realted) BIN: $700

xn--80aesiqfpi9d.com (поставщик.com) Supplier BIN: $3000

xn--b1agp.com (век.com) Century (real estate related) BIN: $10,000

xn--80axfimh.com (формат.com) Format BIN: $400

xn--90ab1bi6c.com (выбор.com) Choice BIN: $15,000

xn--j1ahl.com (ток.com) Electricity BIN: $600

xn--l1accbpg9b2a.com (мощность.com) Power BIN: $750

xn--d1abujt0d.com (методы.com) Methods BIN: $550

xn--3-ftbkn1go.com (ьз3юкг.com) mp3.ru (that's what you get, when you forget to switch your keyboard to English. High traffic domain) BIN: $550

xn--c1ahja3b1bc4b.com (зщктщюкг.com) Porno.com (that's what you get, when you forget to switch your keyboard to English. High traffic domain) BIN: $600

xn--h1adyd2de.com (якутия.com) Yakutiya (russian region) BIN: $1000

xn--80ad1ce.com (тува.com) Tuva (russian region) BIN: $1000

xn--80aitmd6dxa.com (площадь.com) Square, Space, Acreage BIN: $5000

xn--80aesajugrj6e.com (поставщики.com) Suppliers BIN: $3700

xn--80agftgcrbnw.com (маркетолог.com) Marketer BIN: $2500

xn--d1aq.com (дм.com) DM.com BIN: $300

xn--d1as.com (дн.com) DN.com BIN: $300

xn--b1aehb1afbfk0jtc.com (порнозвёзды.com) Pornostars (Adult) BIN: $300 SOLD

xn--h1aaahn3dwc.com (яичники.com) Egg Cells (Adult) BIN: $50

xn--g1anc4c.com (позы.com) Positions (Adult) BIN: $450 SOLD

xn--d1airhm2a1b.com (дрочить.com) To masturbate (Adult) BIN: $50

xn--c1ar.com (мг.com) MG.com BIN: $300

xn--b1aghinibcrlk.com (спутниковое.com) Satellite (satellite radio, satellite tv, satellite receiver ... got nice stats) BIN: $300

xn--e1ajbceli1a5f.com (комплекты.com) Sets, Kits BIN: $650

xn--b1afbk2bed8f.com (ресиверы.com) Receivers BIN: $850

xn--e1aaigbegpk7al6e2c.com (комплектующие.com) Computer parts, addons BIN: $900

Rubber Duck
27th July 2006, 01:12 PM
Congratulations on some decent sales to some very decent Clients!

DomenForum.net
27th July 2006, 02:02 PM
Thanks Rubber Duck!

P.S. Even though prices are high, I actively consider any offers! I will respond to evry PM I receive from potential buyers.

Rubber Duck
27th July 2006, 02:04 PM
Thanks Rubber Duck!

P.S. Even though prices are high, I am accepting any offers! I will respond to evry PM I receive from potential buyers.

I think you need to restate that. In English that means you commit to take whatever you are offered. I think you should introduce the words "actively consider".

alpha
27th July 2006, 02:14 PM
I think you need to restate that. In English that means you commit to take whatever you are offered. I think you should introduce the words "actively consider".
$6,99 for everything then.

Members who go back on deals will be banned.

DomenForum.net
27th July 2006, 03:26 PM
Didn't I say I take offers via PM, you did not send a PM, so there is no deal and I won't be banned :)

Rubber Duck, thank you for the correction ... I made a stupid mistake that could lead my username to ban-list. Thanks god Alphamale has also mistaken )

Rubber Duck
27th July 2006, 03:35 PM
Didn't I say I take offers via PM, you did not send a PM, so there is no deal and I won't be banned :)

Rubber Duck, thank you for the correction ... I made a stupid mistake that could lead my username to ban-list. Thanks god Alphamale has also mistaken )

I think you need to take account of the fact that we Brits have an often rather dry sense of humour.

It is for this reason that we find canned laughter and people that put He He He in their postings extremely irritating.

I am reasonably sure Alpha was just pulling your leg, unless of course he read this as just being part of one of your complexed strategies.

filmlion
5th January 2007, 12:31 AM
just wanted to say that idn.com has a good chance of beating idn.ru or even idn.newrussianidntld :) why? i'll tell you in a new thread to make sure we all can discuss it. keep yr eyes open. :)

Wot
29th December 2010, 05:54 AM
I currently have over $300k worth portfolio with .RU names, that I can sell right now ... thanks god I invested in .RU last year instead of investing in IDN's which would be a totall loss


A resurrection bites yer bum?

Oops

alpha
29th December 2010, 07:43 AM
Hmmm how's that working out for you

Drewbert
29th December 2010, 07:59 AM
Awkward.

2001
29th December 2010, 02:33 PM
Here's what I see from reading their forum:
Alex sold .net forum to MaulNet for $5k
MaulNet asked Alex to stay as Admin
Alex Chernishev is arrested in Chicago for inappropriately touching a minor
Alex announces that he is investing in a private pre-school
Alex is setting up a competing DF.ru
The 'translits' camp is vowing to follow Alex

bwhhisc
29th December 2010, 03:05 PM
Here's what I see from reading their forum:
Alex sold .net forum to MaulNet for $5k
MaulNet asked Alex to stay as Admin
Alex Chernishev is arrested in Chicago for inappropriately touching a minor
Alex announces that he is investing in a private pre-school
Alex is setting up a competing DF.ru
The 'translits' camp is vowing to follow Alex

You have any links or authentification of #4 and #5.
If not rather anything that inflammatory about someone should not be posted here.

Vlaen
29th December 2010, 03:07 PM
This thread makes my brain hurt.

2001
29th December 2010, 03:51 PM
http://domenforum.net/showthread.php?t=116156

Alex Меню пользователя Alex
У меня скоро будет новый форум, а у вас?

Я больше не Админ
Сняли с должности, подставили глупый статус. Как дети, ей богу ...
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Drewbert
29th December 2010, 06:28 PM
http://domenforum.net/showthread.php?t=113319&page=3

2001
29th December 2010, 06:44 PM
Alex writes that idn folks are not that smart:

http://domenforum.net/showthread.php?t=113319&page=3

Это они написали после того, как я впарил придуркам портфолио из максимум ста IDN доменов за несколько тысяч долларов, которые я зарегистрировал за пару сотен долларов 10 дней до продажи )))
В аналах истории копаться не буду, ибо нет времени, но я не обманываю

На этом форуме сидят идиоты, которые реально верят в IDN и всеми способами поднимают на них ценник.