Congrats to エロ.tv

[sarcle]

So I got a traffic boost today on one of my sites and did a quick yahoo.co.jp search for "エロ", I just want to note that this term returns over 900,000+ in yahoo overture results monthly.

ADDED: BTW "エロ" means "erotic" so if you are underage or opposed to nudity. DONT LOOK AT THESE SITES!

Bam #6 spot goes to エロ.tv. Way to go. The quickest way to get idn to the people is to bring it to them with top ranking spots for top ranking terms.

My question is how is DTIcash working for you?

http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/9950/eroop5.th.jpg (http://img167.imageshack.us/my.php?image=eroop5.jpg)

Link: http://search.yahoo.co.jp/search?p=%E3%82%A8%E3%83%AD&ei=UTF-8&fr=top_v2&x=wrt&meta=vc%3D

It's apparent to me it's not the content or the extension that matters to yahoo it's the domain name itself.

I'm clear back on #28. I won't say what kind of traffic I'm getting, it's nice, but I can only imagine what you are seeing.

http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/3281/erosvk5.th.jpg (http://img167.imageshack.us/my.php?image=erosvk5.jpg)

DEVELOP DEVELOP DEVELOP DEVELOP!

[thefabfive]

Thanks Sarcle.

Traffic has dropped off in the last two months but still remains strong. It did take Yahoo.co.jp about 3 months to finally index the site but once that happened things really picked up.

[touchring]

Getting rid of the parking page matters the most.

Btw, nice site, what affiliate as you using for the pic links? They call it TGP right?

xn--ickth.tv

[sarcle]

Thanks Sarcle.

Traffic has dropped off in the last two months but still remains strong. It did take Yahoo.co.jp about 3 months to finally index the site but once that happened things really picked up.

Yeah I got lucky and got linked to a page rank 5 adult site so I got indexed in less than a week but the traffic just kicked in for me and it's a lot. CONGRATS.

[touchring]

Yeah I got lucky and got linked to a page rank 5 adult site so I got indexed in less than a week but the traffic just kicked in for me and it's a lot. CONGRATS.


Any comments on where you get the affiliate links from?

[sarcle]

Any comments on where you get the affiliate links from?

Sorry Touch. Here you go. Affiliate Link (http://click.dtiserv2.com/Click/1039-99-us4368)

[touchring]

Sorry Touch. Here you go. Affiliate Link (http://click.dtiserv2.com/Click/1039-99-us4368)


Thks, how's the conversion like?

[sarcle]

Thks, how's the conversion like?

Don't know myself. I just started using them but their content works obviously to get you to the top of the search engines. That's why I was wondering if thefabfive would help us out. Doesn't have to give us numbers just a simple %. I myself should know more in a week or so.

[blastfromthepast]

DTI Cash is great, but the real gems are on DTI's Japanese language affiliate pages.

I've taken some so you can use them on your own site.

Here is a toutorial:

http://internationalizeddomain.com/av/

[touchring]

DTI Cash is great, but the real gems are on the Japanese language affiliate pages.

I've taken some so you can use them on your own site.

Here is a toutorial:

http://internationalizeddomain.com/av/



Thks, Dan, which of them have you used yourself and how's the stats like? I heard you saying about one of your sites once, i think.

Btw, the link has chicks in it, if anyone doesn't know yet.

[sarcle]

Btw, the link has chicks in it, if anyone doesn't know yet.

That's my bad I should have stated in the first thread that "エロ" means "ero" or "erotic"

I will add that now.

But yes there are some nice boobies in that link.

[Drewbert]

mmmmmmm boobies

[Olney]

Congrats
A few of us have been experience this too.
After you get a few you realize how much more valuable your domain becomes.

[rhys]

Wasn't it our own ever optimistic RD who questioned the value of developing? Or am I remembering incorrectly?

[touchring]

mmmmmmm boobies


Somehow i find it tough to do research for adult names, i can't put on a rational thinking cap!

[rhys]

Somehow i find it tough to do research for adult names, i can't put on a rational thinking cap!

Luckily I seem to have immunized myself against such an affliction...:)

[Rubber Duck]

Wasn't it our own ever optimistic RD who questioned the value of developing? Or am I remembering incorrectly?

When I see those that are claiming high traffic and good earnings in the secondary markets looking for more domains rather than just trying to sell, I will be a lot more convinced. I am also out of the Porn market altogether. All the evidence of any real earnings seems to be coming from Porn.

[jose]

BTW, I own エロス.net (http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/エロス)

Any good?

[rhys]

Well RD, I have some bids in current auctions and I have yet to hawk my wares in the secondary market yet I claim it. For example, my ブーツ.jp (http://ブーツ.jp)has made over $400 since September when I set it up. [just look at it don't click please!]. It even had a nice run there making $20 dollars a day back in November. And she keeps on ticking steady $2-$3 dollars per day. Not too shabby for about 3 hours of work to set it up.

Date Channel Page impressions Clicks Page CTR Page eCPM [?] Earnings Totals
Boots 18,665 3,421 18.33% $21.64 $403.93

[touchring]

Wasn't it our own ever optimistic RD who questioned the value of developing? Or am I remembering incorrectly?


If we do not develop, we'll end up like .info - the parking page extension.

[Fka200]

My question is ---- If we develop, would we hold our top rankings in Google lets say? I'm trying to figure that out right now, and was going to suggest a SEO section to the forum so we can share basic tips (been trying to read about SEO here and there online). I have 3 sites that are top ranked in Google, but as parked pages. I remember reading that they will eventually lose their places...... but what if I get them developed now? Anyone?

[thefabfive]

Conversion rates are not very good - I would say 1 in several thousand on average, but the traffic makes up for it. There are even some PPC banners at DTI Cash you can add to your pages. The PPC income alone (at $0.01 per click) pays for the reg fees - and these are .tv domains.

[Rubber Duck]

My question is ---- If we develop, would we hold our top rankings in Google lets say? I'm trying to figure that out right now, and was going to suggest a SEO section to the forum so we can share basic tips (been trying to read about SEO here and there online). I have 3 sites that are top ranked in Google, but as parked pages. I remember reading that they will eventually lose their places...... but what if I get them developed now? Anyone?

http://www.idnforums.com/forums/search-engine-optimization-seo/

[sarcle]

When I see those that are claiming high traffic and good earnings in the secondary markets looking for more domains rather than just trying to sell, I will be a lot more convinced. I am also out of the Porn market altogether. All the evidence of any real earnings seems to be coming from Porn.

This is not quite true either.

ゼリー.jp is still ranked number one on yahoo.co.jp. It's just a shame that it's not being google adsensed at the moment. With 8287 Yahoo Overture and ¥35 bids. Which gives it the capacity or potential of making ¥290045. But I read that ChinaStar is having problems with getting approved for Google Adsense but disproves that all potential earnings are in the adult market. Right now actually 8,287 is low for the overture I have the .com and have been watching this and seen it as high as 15,000.

There are several more I'm just to lazy to look them up.

The key now is to get these sites in the SE's and to get the people to notice them and at these spots in the rankings it wont be hard. Getting into the consumers subconscious is the most important thing so it's automatic when the AU of IE7 hits in March, watch out.

[thefabfive]

When I see those that are claiming high traffic and good earnings in the secondary markets looking for more domains rather than just trying to sell, I will be a lot more convinced. I am also out of the Porn market altogether. All the evidence of any real earnings seems to be coming from Porn.
Once people exhaust their own domains I would guess they would go looking in the secondary market. However, that is likely to take quite a long time with the number of domains in many people's portfolios.

And the reason it seems that real earnings are in porn is because it's the easiest type of site to develop for those that don't know the language. And Ovt is usually quite large for adult names.

[sarcle]

And the reason it seems that real earnings are in porn is because it's the easiest type of site to develop for those that don't know the language. And Ovt is usually quite large for adult names.

We've already shown sites that rank in top spots on yahoo.co.jp without original content. Meaning it's based mostly on the name itself.

Imagine what it would take to grab those top spots of yahoo for the term "erotic" hell for even "jelly" in ascii. We have already done this. Not to mention other's. That aren't talking.

Some have likened IDN to Ascii in the mid 90's. What was the first thing to take over the internet? One word: Porn. History is just repeating itself.

[Rubber Duck]

We've already shown sites that rank in top spots on yahoo.co.jp without original content. Meaning it's based mostly on the name itself.

Imagine what it would take to grab those top spots of yahoo for the term "erotic" hell for even "jelly" in ascii. We have already done this. Not to mention other's. That aren't talking.

Some have likened IDN to Ascii in the mid 90's. What was the first thing to take over the internet? One word: Porn. History is just repeating itself.

There is a slight distinction here, in as much as in some countries at least the Internet is already well established. What we are really talking about is a migration from Urls that have no Recognise and Recall value to ones that do.

Once people exhaust their own domains I would guess they would go looking in the secondary market. However, that is likely to take quite a long time with the number of domains in many people's portfolios.

And the reason it seems that real earnings are in porn is because it's the easiest type of site to develop for those that don't know the language. And Ovt is usually quite large for adult names.

I would have thought that exhausting you supply of domains before looking at the secondary market is a fairly short-sighted approach.

[sarcle]

There is a slight distinction here, in as much as in some countries at least the Internet is already well established. What we are really talking about is a migration from Urls that have no Recognize and Recall value to ones that do.

Yes you are correct. The Japanese are very internet savvy not English savvy. And noticing these sites and their urls will cause them to recall the site itself vs. blahblahlbahblah.jp.


I would have thought that exhausting you supply of domains before looking at the secondary market is a fairly short-sighted approach.

I agree that this is true for the newcomers. They don't have the best generics and wont get them unless they buy them. But for those of us that have been in the market and already own some of the best generics, creating sites, causes and pushes the secondary market.

[Prodigy]

Adsense has been approved and loaded up on to ゼリー.jp

We'll watch and see and let you know how it shapes up.

In the meanwhile we are developing a Japanese website template for Amazon associate store formats... Trying to do this mainly pictorially to avoid any future copyright problems.

We have purchased about 100 .JP domains over the last 2weeks and plan to develop them all.

True value in Japanese IDNs might lie in search engine directed traffic!

[rhys]

Adsense has been approved and loaded up on to ゼリー.jp

We'll watch and see and let you know how it shapes up.

In the meanwhile we are developing a Japanese website template for Amazon associate store formats... Trying to do this mainly pictorially to avoid any future copyright problems.

We have purchased about 100 .JP domains over the last 2weeks and plan to develop them all.

True value in Japanese IDNs might lie in search engine directed traffic!

Wow it took some time for you to get Adsense approval. Good luck! Just so you know, in most cases, Adsense will make you more money than Amazon Associates. That's the US experience anyway. This comes straight from someone who was in a position to know.

[Prodigy]

I had to make 4 different websites in order to get approval, the most ridiculous thing ive done in my life.

The final version was just a one pager with my opinions and strategy of "UFO Catcher"

Man... this better pay off. Thanks for your advice, The template will be multi functional so I can direct it both ways! I just figured with high ranking IDNs we might be able to make a sale or two!

[joeyskip]

If we do not develop, we'll end up like .info - the parking page extension.

I agree.